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** [[TheCutie Tiffany, aka 'Deaf Taylor Swift']], just wanted to sing "Shake it Off". Then she gets her head [[IncrediblyLamePun shaken off]] with a lawnmower.

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** [[TheCutie Tiffany, aka 'Deaf Taylor Swift']], just wanted to sing "Shake it Off". Then she gets her head [[IncrediblyLamePun [[{{Pun}} shaken off]] with a lawnmower.
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* IKnewIt: The actors don't get the scripts until they filmed the scenes, but the Website/YouTube feature the ''Scene Queens'' is about a recap of the latest episode and guessing who the killer is. One actress successfully identified Hester as the bathtub baby but was wrong as to her being involved in the killings - she named Wes as her suspect.
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** After being released from the asylum, Chanel has an immediate SnapBack to her previous AlphaBitch behavior and disordered eating habits. Is this a result of Chanel being placed back into the "real world" of society and all of the pressures she was under before— with the added stress of being cut off financially and being reviled by the general public, ''or'' was Chanel’s happiness and serenity in the asylum merely a something of a coping mechanism or her plainly losing her mind, potentially being drugged?

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* QuestionableCasting:
** Quite a few people were not happy with Music/ArianaGrande being cast for the show, in large part due to her incredibly divisive performance in the pilot. She's dead before the pilot ends, though.
** Subverted with Nick Jonas as Boone, whose acting abilities (and character) were met with better criticism after the first two episodes aired.



* WhatTheHellCastingAgency:
** Quite a few people were not happy with Music/ArianaGrande being cast for the show, in large part due to her incredibly divisive performance in the pilot. She's dead before the pilot ends, though.
** Subverted with Nick Jonas as Boone, whose acting abilities (and character) were met with better criticism after the first two episodes aired.
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** In a Season One episode, Chanel blackmails Chanel Number Five with the threat of sending Roger and Dodger video proof that Chanel #5 [[ADateWithRosiePalms "regularly rubs it out"]] while watching ''Dora the Explorer'' - the fact that Chanel has not only watched Chanel #5 masturbate but enough times to know that it's something she regularly does, is... suggestive, to say the least.

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** In a Season One episode, Chanel blackmails Chanel Number Five with the threat of sending Roger and Dodger video proof that Chanel #5 [[ADateWithRosiePalms "regularly rubs it out"]] out" while watching ''Dora the Explorer'' - the fact that Chanel has not only watched Chanel #5 masturbate but enough times to know that it's something she regularly does, is... suggestive, to say the least.
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The show can parody more than one era/genre— and it does. Saying the Chanels were a reference to the Ashelys from Recess rather than the Heathers is odd, because the Ashley’s themselves were a spoof on Heathers. Scream Queens almost certainly WAS referencing Heathers, as the show makes at least two other nods to the movie (“Que sera sera” song playing; Grace finding croquette mallets in the closet, #5 playing croquet with the Heathers colors in s2, etc etc).


* CommonKnowledge: The Chanels are often assumed to be parodies of ''{{Film/Heathers}}'', given they're mean girls sharing the same name and a plot involving the cover-up of an AccidentalMurder. This would be rather odd, since the show is distinctly a parody of 90s media, and ''Heathers'' is from the 80s (albeit 1989). The aesthetics and nihilistic comedy style however owe more to ''{{Film/Jawbreaker}}'' from 1999 - where in that it's the AlphaBitch herself who's the murderer (in ''Heathers'' she's the first victim), complete with threatening the less popular girls into keeping it quiet, and making over someone to become part of the clique, who then ends up BackstabbingTheAlphaBitch. Although ''Jawbreaker'' itself was intended as a GenreThrowback to ''Heathers'', and is less remembered, making this comparison understandable. Given the 90s parody, the Chanels could be a parody of the Ashleys from ''{{WesternAnimation/Recess}}'', where anyone in their clique had to change their name to Ashley, as Hester does to become Chanel #6.
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* Chanel is popularly theorized to be either an unaware Asexual or a heavily repressed Lesbian. This can be attributed to her comments about faking it or crying during sex with Chad, being shown to distract herself with Snapchat during sex with Dr. Holt, her desire to have a rich boyfriend being said to be entirely about social status and wealth, and various amounts of HoYay she has with other women (in particular Hester, Grace, Chanel #5, and Dr. Lovin).

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* ** Chanel is popularly theorized to be either an unaware Asexual or a heavily repressed Lesbian. This can be attributed to her comments about faking it or crying during sex with Chad, being shown to distract herself with Snapchat during sex with Dr. Holt, her desire to have a rich boyfriend being said to be entirely about social status and wealth, and various amounts of HoYay she has with other women (in particular Hester, Grace, Chanel #5, and Dr. Lovin).
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* Chanel is popularly theorized to be either an unaware Asexual or a heavily repressed Lesbian. This can be attributed to her comments about faking it or crying during sex with Chad, being shown to distract herself with Snapchat during sex with Dr. Holt, her desire to have a rich boyfriend being said to be entirely about social status and wealth, and various amounts of HoYay she has with other women (in particular Hester, Grace, Chanel #5, and Dr. Lovin).
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* AuthorsSavingThrow:
** For those who still don't think the Chanels got enough comeuppance in the Season 1 finale. The Season 2 premiere reveals that they were found innocent of their crimes but although they got famous through a Netflix documentary - this only led to them becoming despised by the public. They were also reduced to living in a cramped apartment, working menial jobs. And when they're recruited to work in the hospital, they're still being unpaid and essentially depending on Dean Munsch's kindness.
** A scene in Season 2's second episode seems like an answer to a scene that annoyed people in Season 1 - where the Chanels [[DoubleStandardAbuseFemaleOnMale beat up two guys for hitting on them]]. Chanel #5 again gets violent on two mean guys - but this time the guys cruelly mock Tyler for his disease to his face. Additionally, #5 attacking them is not portrayed as an Awesome Moment - as the rest of the onlookers are freaked out and she explains it as an overreaction to coming off her medication.
** The reveal that Denise is still alive, albeit almost brain dead. The fact that they are putting Denise in a position to recover (i.e. cryogenically freezing her so that Munsch can find a "cure for electrocution") is seen as a much better (if over the top) alternative to the SuddenSequelDeathSyndrome Chad received before her. And in the finale, Denise makes a full recovery and saves the day.
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* SugarWiki/DevelopmentHeaven: Jamie Lee Curtis studied the shower scene in ''{{Film/Psycho}}'' carefully, right down to which hand reached for the soap, to recreate the smallest details.
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* CommonKnowledge: The Chanels are often assumed to be parodies of ''{{Film/Heathers}}'', given they're mean girls sharing the same name and a plot involving the cover-up of an AccidentalMurder. This would be rather odd, since the show is distinctly a parody of 90s media, and ''Heathers'' is from the 80s (albeit 1989). The aesthetics and nihilistic comedy style however owe more to ''{{Film/Jawbreaker}}'' from 1999 - where in that it's the AlphaBitch herself who's the murderer (in ''Heathers'' she's the first victim), complete with threatening the less popular girls into keeping it quiet, and making over someone to become part of the clique, who then ends up BackstabbingTheAlphaBitch. Although ''Jawbreaker'' itself was intended as a GenreThrowback to ''Heathers'', and is less remembered, making this comparison understandable. Given the 90s parody, the Chanels could be a parody of the Ashleys from ''{{WesternAnimation/Recess}}'', where anyone in their clique had to change their name to Ashley, as Hester does to become Chanel #6.
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** [[JerkJock Resident douchebag fratbro Chad]]. The biggest reason for this is most viewers and critics agree that Glen Powell is perfect casting, and that Chad himself is hilariously douchey without overstaying his welcome. But him being (relatively) pro-LGBT and genuinely accepting of his best friend Boone being gay helps a lot too, since it shows that [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold Chad has some redemptive qualities.]] Of all the characters, he's had the second least amount of negative reception (behind [[Creator/JamieLeeCurtis Dean Cathy Munsch]]) It only increased even more in the finale, when he became one of the only characters on the show to ''not'' [[MoralEventHorizon attempt to murder another character or cover up a murder for someone.]] Him being genuinely saddened by the deaths of his fraternity brothers also helped. General consensus is his JerkWithAHeartOfGold status makes him the second most sympathetic person behind [[PoliceAreUseless Denise]] Creator/GlenPowell was predicted as the breakout star of the show for this reason.
** Tiffany, aka 'Deaf Taylor Swift', has a decent fan following on Twitter. The fact that she is very [[TheCutie adorable]] and not as annoying as many of the other pledges help. So many people liked her that they have tweeted Ryan Murphy that he should bring her back as the Red Devil... [[FridgeLogic despite her clearly having her head mowed off by them in the first episode.]]

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** [[JerkJock Resident douchebag fratbro Chad]]. The biggest reason for this is most viewers and critics agree that Glen Powell is perfect casting, casting and that Chad himself is hilariously douchey without overstaying his welcome. But him being (relatively) pro-LGBT and genuinely accepting of his best friend Boone being gay helps a lot too, since it shows that [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold Chad has some redemptive qualities.]] Of all the characters, he's had the second least amount of negative reception (behind [[Creator/JamieLeeCurtis Dean Cathy Munsch]]) It only increased even more in the finale, when he became one of the only characters on the show to ''not'' [[MoralEventHorizon attempt to murder another character or cover up a murder for someone.]] Him His being genuinely saddened by the deaths of his fraternity brothers also helped. General The general consensus is his JerkWithAHeartOfGold status makes him the second most sympathetic person behind [[PoliceAreUseless Denise]] Creator/GlenPowell was predicted as the breakout star of the show for this reason.
** Tiffany, aka 'Deaf "Deaf Taylor Swift', Swift," has a decent fan following on Twitter. The fact that she is very [[TheCutie adorable]] and not as annoying as many of the other pledges help. helps. So many people liked her so much that they have tweeted Ryan Murphy that he should bring her back as the Red Devil... [[FridgeLogic despite her clearly having her head mowed off by them in the first episode.]]



** Gigi Caldwell, for being a genuinely nice person and being a pretty quirky character all-around. The fact she's played by Nasim Pedrad and that she proved to be quite a bit tougher than everyone expected, also help. The reveal, that she's the mastermind behind the Red Devil attacks, has if anything, only made her more popular.

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** Gigi Caldwell, for being a genuinely nice person and being a pretty quirky character all-around. The fact she's played by Nasim Pedrad and that she proved to be quite a bit tougher than everyone expected, also help.helps. The reveal, that she's the mastermind behind the Red Devil attacks, has if anything, only made her more popular.



* EpilepticTrees: A surprising number of people seem to believed that Boone's sister is either transgender, or was adopted by a wealthy family. This is probably an attempt to expand a suspects list that, as of the last few episodes, basically consists of Hester and Chanel #5.
* {{Fanon}}: With the series ending prematurely fans have assumed that the Red Devil who attacks Chanel at the end of the GrandFinale is actually Grace, seeking revenge for her father's death.

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* EpilepticTrees: A surprising number of people seem to believed believe that Boone's sister is either transgender, transgender or was adopted by a wealthy family. This is probably an attempt to expand a suspects suspect list that, as of the last few episodes, basically consists of Hester and Chanel #5.
* {{Fanon}}: With the series ending prematurely prematurely, fans have assumed that the Red Devil who attacks Chanel at the end of the GrandFinale is actually Grace, seeking revenge for her father's death.



** In the beginning of 2x03, Chanel mocks Chanel #5's grief over Tyler, telling her to 'get over' another one of her boyfriends being murdered. [[TemptingFate Do we even need to tell you what happens]] [[LaserGuidedKarma to Chanel's ''fiance'' at the end of the same episode?]]

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** In At the beginning of 2x03, Chanel mocks Chanel #5's grief over Tyler, telling her to 'get over' "get over" another one of her boyfriends being murdered. [[TemptingFate Do we even need to tell you what happens]] [[LaserGuidedKarma to Chanel's ''fiance'' ''fiancé'' at the end of the same episode?]]



** Music/ArianaGrande's fanbase was very insistent that this was the case for #2, and, in fact, continued to insist the case even after #2 was killed on screen, her dead body was located, multiple characters commented that she was dead, and a funeral was held with her being either buried or cremated after. Not helping due to the fact that her ghost (or Chanel's dream of her) made an appearance, which fueled the fire for speculation. There is talk that the character was meant to have a larger role, but it had to be cut down because Ariana had to go on tour.
** Jennifer and Hester. The most common running theory is that the former faked her death for show and are trying to tie her into the Red Devil killings, and the latter because Ryan Murphy's loose lips already spoiled future plot points for her. Hester was confirmed to be alive in the episode after her "death."

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** Music/ArianaGrande's fanbase was very insistent that this was the case for #2, and, in fact, continued to insist on the case even after #2 was killed on screen, her dead body was located, multiple characters commented that she was dead, and a funeral was held with her being either buried or cremated after. Not helping due to the fact that her ghost (or Chanel's dream of her) made an appearance, which fueled the fire for speculation. There is talk that the character was meant to have a larger role, but it had to be cut down because Ariana had to go on tour.
** Jennifer and Hester. The most common running theory is that the former faked her death for show and are is trying to tie her into the Red Devil killings, and the latter because Ryan Murphy's loose lips already spoiled future plot points for her. Hester was confirmed to be alive in the episode after her "death."



** Chanel's insulting and harsh missive was leaked, exposing her true nature to the world and making her come under much public fire. Creator/KimKardashian would later leak a private call she had with Music/TaylorSwift, exposing a lie Taylor made and making her come under much public fire. This coincidence comes off the heels of Chanel already being set up as a parallel for Taylor Swift, when the singer's Swiftmas was parodied by Chanel.
** In the second episode Hester says to close the eyes of Chanel #2's body otherwise "she'll take one of us with her". Come to the end of the series all four characters present in the scene - Hester, Chanel, #3 and #5 are still alive.

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** Chanel's insulting and harsh missive was leaked, exposing her true nature to the world and making her come under much public fire. Creator/KimKardashian would later leak a private call she had with Music/TaylorSwift, exposing a lie Taylor made and making her come under much public fire. This coincidence comes off the heels of Chanel already being set up as a parallel for Taylor Swift, Swift when the singer's Swiftmas was parodied by Chanel.
** In the second episode Hester says to close the eyes of Chanel #2's body otherwise "she'll take one of us with her". Come to the end of the series all four characters present in the scene - Hester, Chanel, #3 #3, and #5 are still alive.



** A character named [[https://www.yourtango.com/2018312914/what-does-chad-mean-incel-slang-definitions-history-terms-on-forums-reddit-4chan Chad]] being known for sleeping around with loads of women.

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** A character named [[https://www.yourtango.com/2018312914/what-does-chad-mean-incel-slang-definitions-history-terms-on-forums-reddit-4chan Chad]] being is known for sleeping around with loads of women.



** In a Season One episode, Chanel blackmails Chanel Number Five with the threat of sending Roger and Dodger video proof that Chanel #5 [[ADateWithRosiePalms “regularly rubs it out”]] while watching ''Dora the Explorer'' - the fact that Chanel has not only watched Chanel #5 masturbate, but enough times to know that it’s something she regularly does, is... suggestive, to say the least.

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** In a Season One episode, Chanel blackmails Chanel Number Five with the threat of sending Roger and Dodger video proof that Chanel #5 [[ADateWithRosiePalms “regularly "regularly rubs it out”]] out"]] while watching ''Dora the Explorer'' - the fact that Chanel has not only watched Chanel #5 masturbate, masturbate but enough times to know that it’s it's something she regularly does, is... suggestive, to say the least.



** Hester may have turned to be a manipulative, brown-nosing, two-faced bitch but she admits that it comes from having a lonely life due to her neckbrace to top it off Chanel callously attempts to kills her after [[BaitTheDog pretending to forgive her]] She manages to survive though, so its nulled a little.
** Chanel #5 is very much the BetaBitch, and is just as jerkish, mean and aggressive as the other Kappa's. However she is also pretty much Chanel's punching bag. She is always blamed for anything that goes wrong by Chanel (even when she's not involved or the task is impossible), Chanel never misses an opportunity to emasculate or humiliate her, and regularly spreads the rumor her vagina has teeth. Both her lovers die at the hands of the Red Devil. She admits to not feeling she belongs in Kappa due to getting in by being a legacy. Her family goes off on holiday without bothering to tell her. And when she is almost killed by the Red Devil, Chanel dismisses it for not being attacked in "a new and exciting way." The last straw is when her own parents willingly aid Hester in framing her for being the bathtub baby because they want to get rid of her once and for all. Quite a lot of her fans argue she really deserves a hug at this point. In Season Two she drops most of her Jerkass traits, gains even more Woobie traits and becomes a pure Woobie.
** By the end of the series, [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold Chad Radwell]] definitely counts. While he's the campus' resident JerkJock, most of Chad's {{Jerkass}} tendencies come from sheer stupidity rather than outright malice (unlike a large majority of the characters), and [[HiddenDepths is among the two characters who haven't tried to murder anyone by the end of the finale]] (the other being Denise Hemphille). These alone make him one of the more sympathetic characters on this show. However, what really seals his woobie status is that, as of the end of the show, Chad's HeterosexualLifePartner and best friend, Boone is not only a murderer, but also dead, and the rest of his frat brothers (who he clearly cares a great deal for and considers to be his closest friends) have also been killed by the red devils, leaving Chad as the SoleSurvivor of the Dickie Dollar Scholars. This is clearly something he finds incredibly devastating, to the point he even [[ManlyTears starts to break down and cry as he mourns them in the finale, saying he has nothing left to live for.]] And his reaction to everything that happened? Open a charity fund dedicated to his fallen friends with a genuine goal to help others in a SugarWiki/{{Heartwarming Moment|s}}... [[SugarWiki/FunnyMoments well, kinda]]. [[TraumaCongaLine And for good measure on top of all of that]], [[ArsonMurderAndJayWalking Denise Hemphill breaks up with him in the last episode.]]

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** Hester may have turned to be a manipulative, brown-nosing, two-faced bitch but she admits that it comes from having a lonely life due to her neckbrace to top it off Chanel callously attempts to kills kill her after [[BaitTheDog pretending to forgive her]] her]]. She manages to survive though, so its it nulled a little.
** Chanel #5 is very much the BetaBitch, and is just as jerkish, mean mean, and aggressive as the other Kappa's. However However, she is also pretty much Chanel's punching bag. She is always blamed for anything that goes wrong by with Chanel (even when she's not involved or the task is impossible), Chanel never misses an opportunity to emasculate or humiliate her, and regularly spreads the rumor her vagina has teeth. Both her lovers die at the hands of the Red Devil. She admits to not feeling she belongs in Kappa due to getting in by being a legacy. Her family goes off on holiday without bothering to tell her. And when she is almost killed by the Red Devil, Chanel dismisses it for not being attacked in "a new and exciting way." The last straw is when her own parents willingly aid Hester in framing her for being the bathtub baby because they want to get rid of her once and for all. Quite a lot of her fans argue she really deserves a hug at this point. In Season Two she drops most of her Jerkass traits, gains gains, even more more, Woobie traits traits, and becomes a pure Woobie.
** By the end of the series, [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold Chad Radwell]] definitely counts. While he's the campus' resident JerkJock, most of Chad's {{Jerkass}} tendencies come from sheer stupidity rather than outright malice (unlike a large majority of the characters), and [[HiddenDepths is among the two characters who haven't tried to murder anyone by the end of the finale]] (the other being Denise Hemphille).Hemphill). These alone make him one of the more sympathetic characters on this show. However, what really seals his woobie status is that, as of the end of the show, Chad's HeterosexualLifePartner and best friend, Boone is not only a murderer, but also dead, and the rest of his frat brothers (who he clearly cares a great deal for and considers to be his closest friends) have also been killed by the red devils, leaving Chad as the SoleSurvivor of the Dickie Dollar Scholars. This is clearly something he finds incredibly devastating, to the point he even [[ManlyTears starts to break down and cry as he mourns them in the finale, saying he has nothing left to live for.]] And his reaction to everything that happened? Open a charity fund dedicated to his fallen friends with a genuine goal to help others in a SugarWiki/{{Heartwarming Moment|s}}... [[SugarWiki/FunnyMoments well, kinda]]. [[TraumaCongaLine And for good measure on the top of all of that]], [[ArsonMurderAndJayWalking Denise Hemphill breaks up with him in the last episode.]]



** [[FountainOfMemes Pretty much everything Chanel says.]] There's a lot of gifs, Tumblr blogs, articles and pages dedicated to repeating memorable insults.

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** [[FountainOfMemes Pretty much everything Chanel says.]] There's There are a lot of gifs, Tumblr blogs, articles articles, and pages dedicated to repeating memorable insults.



** Regardless of one's feelings on the humor style itself, there is no doubt that the Chanels are meant to be [[VillainProtagonist horrible human beings]], with Chanel Oberlin herself crossing the MoralEventHorizon on a regular basis (and arguably as early as the first episode). However, there is a large number of viewers who genuinely see them as [[DracoInLeatherPants good, or at the very least not bad, people]]. Likewise, their mean-spirited humor-style has often been emulated by fans in real life, such as many of them mocking Abigail Breslin for her weight and defending it as "simply a joke," even when it's pointed out how cruel their behavior is. It's one thing to enjoy the show's humor style, it's certainly another to start attempting to emulate the Chanels in real life.

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** Regardless of one's feelings on the humor style itself, there is no doubt that the Chanels are meant to be [[VillainProtagonist horrible human beings]], with Chanel Oberlin herself crossing the MoralEventHorizon on a regular basis (and arguably as early as the first episode). However, there is a large number of viewers who genuinely see them as [[DracoInLeatherPants good, or at the very least not bad, people]]. Likewise, their mean-spirited humor-style humor style has often been emulated by fans in real life, such as many of them mocking Abigail Breslin for her weight and defending it as "simply a joke," even when it's pointed out how cruel their behavior is. It's one thing to enjoy the show's humor style, it's certainly another to start attempting to emulate the Chanels in real life.



** Nurse Hoffel's plan to murder the Chanels as revenge for Chanel killing her sister, Miss Bean is extreme, but understandable. Her joining the Green Meanie in killing innocent people, starting with Chanel #9, however, is completely unjustifiable and reprehensible.

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** Nurse Hoffel's plan to murder the Chanels as revenge for Chanel killing her sister, Miss Bean is extreme, extreme but understandable. Her joining the Green Meanie in killing innocent people, starting with Chanel #9, however, is completely unjustifiable and reprehensible.



** [[CampGay Boone]] was TheScrappy before the show even began, mainly due to casting Creator/NickJonas. After the show aired, public reception to him vastly improved with a lot of people citing him as one of the highlights of the show.
** She's still divisive, but people have been warming up to Grace after episodes 7 and 8, where she's more relevant to the plot. Episode 8, in particular is a HumiliationConga that delves into her character and her family, greatly fleshing her out and bringing out a new side to her. [[MemeticMutation She also stops wearing her ugly hats.]] A lot of fans also have begun to find her as less of a VanillaProtagonist due to suspicions that Grace herself is actually the red devil.
** Like Grace, he was never worse than divisive, but Pete has become more popular as the show goes on. One of the biggest reasons being that ''he is the only'' ''NiceGuy'' ''left on the show'' as of episode 11 (seeing as fans don't know the details of his "murder" and many speculate it was some form of self-defense). Even [[FinalGirl Grace]] and [[OnlySaneMan Zayday]] were 100% good with the idea of murdering Dean Munsch (until Pete talked Grace out of the idea she suggested). Him receiving more CharacterDevelopment and giving more humorous performances have also helped quite a bit

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** [[CampGay Boone]] was TheScrappy before the show even began, mainly due to casting Creator/NickJonas. After the show aired, public reception to of him vastly improved with a lot of people citing him as one of the highlights of the show.
** She's still divisive, but people have been warming up to Grace after episodes 7 and 8, where she's more relevant to the plot. Episode 8, in particular particular, is a HumiliationConga that delves into her character and her family, greatly fleshing her out and bringing out a new side to her. [[MemeticMutation She also stops wearing her ugly hats.]] A lot of fans also have begun to find her as less of a VanillaProtagonist due to suspicions that Grace herself is actually the red devil.
** Like Grace, he was never worse than divisive, but Pete has become more popular as the show goes on. One of the biggest reasons being is that ''he is the only'' ''NiceGuy'' ''left on the show'' as of episode 11 (seeing as fans don't know the details of his "murder" and many speculate it was some form of self-defense). Even [[FinalGirl Grace]] and [[OnlySaneMan Zayday]] were 100% good with the idea of murdering Dean Munsch (until Pete talked Grace out of the idea she suggested). Him His receiving more CharacterDevelopment and giving more humorous performances have also helped quite a bitbit.



** The death of Tyler at the end of Season 2's second episode. Just after him and #5 falling in love for real, he's murdered by the killer. #5 is clearly devastated and the scene isn't PlayedForLaughs. What's more is that Chanel and #3 don't use this as an opportunity to mock #5; instead of taking a shot at #5, Chanel just says "we have another serial killer".
** [[EnsembleDarkhorse Chad Radwell's]] death in 2x03 is one for both the viewers and the characters in the show. Even worse, [[LoveMartyr Chanel's]] [[CryForTheDevil grieving over him]] in the beginning of 2x04.
** As [[BaseBreakingCharacter divisive]] as her character was, Grace being revealed to have [[BreakTheCutie been put in an asylum to due the trauma she went through is absolutely heartbreaking]]. Finding out about it it from her father, who has now gone murder-the-Chanels insane, makes it even worse.

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** The death of Tyler at the end of Season 2's second episode. Just after him he and #5 falling fall in love for real, he's murdered by the killer. #5 is clearly devastated and the scene isn't PlayedForLaughs. What's more more, is that Chanel and #3 don't use this as an opportunity to mock #5; instead of taking a shot at #5, Chanel just says "we have another serial killer".
** [[EnsembleDarkhorse Chad Radwell's]] death in 2x03 is one for both the viewers and the characters in the show. Even worse, [[LoveMartyr Chanel's]] [[CryForTheDevil grieving over him]] in at the beginning of 2x04.
** As [[BaseBreakingCharacter divisive]] as her character was, Grace being revealed to have [[BreakTheCutie been put in an asylum to due the trauma she went through is absolutely heartbreaking]]. Finding out about it it from her father, who has now gone murder-the-Chanels insane, makes it even worse.



** Many agree that Gigi Caldwell's death in episode 10 was incredibly premature, pointing out that the character was not only [[EnsembleDarkhorse a popular, hilarious scene-stealer]], but that she had a lot of unused plot potential, seeing as she was a killer whose motives were still unexplained, whose exact connection to the bathtub baby was still unexplained, and who had not even been able to have [[TheReveal her own reveal]] to the protagonists, including her boyfriend Wes or his daughter Grace. This occurring the episode after another character was wasted did not help
** Many fans regard Boone in this way too after episode 9, pointing out that, like the one mention above, the character still had a lot of untapped plot potential and was a fairly universally liked character (in contrast to the ''many'' {{Base Breaking Character}}s on this show). The above death occurring in the episode after did not help, especially since Boone's death was done to keep Gigi alive... only for her to die offscreen after having one scene in the very next episode.

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** Many agree that Gigi Caldwell's death in episode 10 was incredibly premature, pointing out that the character was not only [[EnsembleDarkhorse a popular, hilarious scene-stealer]], but that she had a lot of unused plot potential, seeing as she was a killer whose motives were still unexplained, whose exact connection to the bathtub baby was still unexplained, and who had not even been able to have [[TheReveal her own reveal]] to the protagonists, including her boyfriend Wes or his daughter Grace. This occurring in the episode after another character was wasted did not help
** Many fans regard Boone in this way too after episode 9, pointing out that, like the one mention mentioned above, the character still had a lot of untapped plot potential and was a fairly universally liked character (in contrast to the ''many'' {{Base Breaking Character}}s on this show). The above death occurring in the episode after did not help, especially since Boone's death was done to keep Gigi alive... only for her to die offscreen after having one scene in the very next episode.



* UnintentionallySympathetic: In an interesting case, the show presents the Chanels being successfully framed for the Red Devil murders, deemed hopelessly insane and sentenced to spend life in the asylum as LaserGuidedKarma. However a lot of fans felt at least in the case of Chanel #3 and #5 that although they did deserve to be punished [[DisproportionateRetribution this was simply too extreme]]. Despite their incarceration presented as making their lives better in the long run, a lot of fans feel they really didn't deserve their fate ([[BrokenBase although others do]]). The reasons for this differ:
** Chanel #3 while hardly completely innocent: being shallow, classist and vain. While less interested or enthusiastic about hazing, she never did anything to stop the others. She also helped Chanel cover up the deaths of Chanel #2 and Ms. Bean. However due to her clearly being the [[TokenGoodTeammate nicest Chanel]] (being the only one of them to show any sign loyalty or care for her fellow sisters, being considerably less unkind towards pledges and also generally being overall nicer to others) led to many fans developing sympathy for her. The fact the series also ends with her also convinced that she is guilty and believing she murdered Sam, feels a bit harsh.
** Chanel #5: She committed the same crimes as Chanel #3 and surpassed her by also being homophobic and took obvious pleasure out of bulling others. However while undisputed being spiteful and unkind [[JerkassWoobie her life was simply so miserable (what with her: having parents who didn't care about her in the slightest. Being Chanel's personal punching bag and constantly getting blamed for everything that went wrong. Having both her lovers murdered by the Red Devil, one such murder happening right in front of her. And her ending up traumatized by all the killings and getting no sympathy from anyone even the supposedly nice characters etc.)]] that it gets incredibly difficult not to feel sorry for her. As such it climaxing with her being sentenced while being innocent, after being outright framed and disowned by her own parents, that it becomes incredibly hard to see her as deserving this sentence.

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* UnintentionallySympathetic: In an interesting case, the show presents the Chanels being successfully framed for the Red Devil murders, deemed hopelessly insane insane, and sentenced to spend life in the asylum as LaserGuidedKarma. However However, a lot of fans felt at least in the case of Chanel #3 and #5 that although they did deserve to be punished [[DisproportionateRetribution this was simply too extreme]]. Despite their incarceration presented as making their lives better in the long run, a lot of fans feel they really didn't deserve their fate ([[BrokenBase although others do]]). The reasons for this differ:
** Chanel #3 while hardly completely innocent: being is shallow, classist classist, and vain. While less interested or enthusiastic about the hazing, she never did anything to stop the others. She also helped Chanel cover up the deaths of Chanel #2 and Ms. Bean. However due to her clearly being the [[TokenGoodTeammate nicest Chanel]] (being the only one of them to show any sign of loyalty or care for her fellow sisters, being considerably less unkind towards pledges pledges, and also generally being overall nicer to others) led to many fans developing sympathy for her. The fact the series also ends with her also convinced that she is guilty and believing she murdered Sam, feels a bit harsh.
** Chanel #5: She committed the same crimes as Chanel #3 and surpassed her by also being homophobic and took taking obvious pleasure out of bulling in bullying others. However while undisputed being spiteful and unkind [[JerkassWoobie her life was simply so miserable (what with her: having parents who didn't care about her in the slightest. Being Chanel's personal punching bag and constantly getting blamed for everything that went wrong. Having both of her lovers murdered by the Red Devil, one such murder happening happens right in front of her. And her ending up traumatized by all the killings and getting no sympathy from anyone even the supposedly nice characters etc.)]] that it gets incredibly difficult not to feel sorry for her. As such such, it climaxing climaxes with her being sentenced while being innocent, after being outright framed and disowned by her own parents, that it becomes incredibly hard to see her as deserving this sentence.



** Chad himself. The show likes to play his quirky behavior for laughs and make him seem like a clueless but lovable idiot, but he can be hard to sympathize with when he's emotionally abusive to Chanel and cares more about her money and popularity, as opposed to Chanel, who genuinely seems to love him. His mistreatment over Chanel's supposed to come off as karma for her, but he receives no comeuppance and is always EasilyForgiven. Granted its migrated a bit by his [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold redeeming]] [[AFatherToHisMen traits]] and the fact he looses all his friends throughout the season.

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** Chad himself. The show likes to play his quirky behavior for laughs and make him seem like a clueless but lovable idiot, but he can be hard to sympathize with when he's emotionally abusive to Chanel and cares more about her money and popularity, as opposed to Chanel, who genuinely seems to love him. His mistreatment over of Chanel's supposed to come off as karma for her, but he receives no comeuppance and is always EasilyForgiven. Granted its it migrated a bit by his [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold redeeming]] [[AFatherToHisMen traits]] and the fact he looses loses all his friends throughout the season.



** Doctor Brock Holt. He's being constantly tormented by his evil transplant hand, over worked by Dean Munsch, stressed over trying to keep said hand from killing people- pointedly, Chanel- along with the pressure of being [[OnlySaneEmployee the only actual doctor at the hospital]], and he's been made to look (by Cassidy) like the Green Meanie/flashback baby.

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** Doctor Brock Holt. He's being constantly tormented by his evil transplant hand, over worked overworked by Dean Munsch, stressed over trying to keep said hand from killing people- pointedly, Chanel- along with the pressure of being [[OnlySaneEmployee the only actual doctor at the hospital]], and he's been made to look (by Cassidy) like the Green Meanie/flashback baby.
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** ''Thanksgiving'' also provides one for Chad, although it's subtle. In the previous episode Chad said he family would expect him to marry the mother of his child. In this episode the family is established as having an army of lawyers to dispute paternity claims, and are shown to be more than happy to pay to make embarrassments "go away." This creates the shocking interpretation that Chad was lying about his family's expectations, and was making a conscious choice to take responsibility for his child.
** Each Red Devil seems to see him or herself as smarter than the others. It's debatable how much this is true for any one of them, especially given how much this show revels in UnreliableNarrator and CrouchingMoronHiddenBadass. Even Hester, the final Devil, may have been more successful than her co-conspirators out of sheer dumb luck, at least until the Season 2 time skip where Hester confesses on camera like an idiot because she thinks double jeopardy means no-one can be tried for a crime if someone else already has.
** Grace could have actually felt guilty in her role of allowing the Chanels to be framed for murders that they didn't commit, which could explain why she is a psych ward.

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** ''Thanksgiving'' also provides one for Chad, although it's subtle. In the previous episode Chad said he his family would expect him to marry the mother of his child. In this episode the family is established as having an army of lawyers to dispute paternity claims, and are shown to be more than happy to pay to make embarrassments "go away." This creates the shocking interpretation that Chad was lying about his family's expectations, and was making a conscious choice to take responsibility for his child.
** Each Red Devil seems to see him or herself as smarter than the others. It's debatable how much this is true for any one of them, especially given how much this show revels in UnreliableNarrator and CrouchingMoronHiddenBadass. Even Hester, the final Devil, may have been more successful than her co-conspirators out of sheer dumb luck, at least until the Season 2 time skip where Hester confesses on camera like an idiot because she thinks double jeopardy means no-one no one can be tried for a crime if someone else already has.
** Grace could have actually felt guilty in her role of allowing the Chanels to be framed for murders that they didn't commit, which could explain why she is in a psych ward.



** For those who still don't think the Chanels got enough comeuppance in the Season 1 finale. The Season 2 premiere reveals that they were found innocent of their crimes but although they got famous through a Netflix documentary - this only led to them becoming despised by the public. They were also reduced to living in a cramped apartment working menial jobs. And when they're recruited to work in the hospital, they're still being unpaid and essentially depending on Dean Munsch's kindness.
** A scene in Season 2's second episode seems like an answer to a scene that annoyed people in Season 1 - where the Chanels [[DoubleStandardAbuseFemaleOnMale beat up two guys for hitting on them]]. Chanel #5 again gets violent on two mean guys - but this time the guys cruelly mock Tyler for his disease to his face. Additionally #5 attacking them is not portrayed as an Awesome Moment - as the rest of the onlookers are freaked out and she explains it as an overreaction to coming off her medication.
** The reveal that Denise is still alive, albeit almost brain dead. The fact that they are putting Denise in a position to recover (i.e. cryogenically freezing her so that Munsch can find a "cure for electrocution") is seen as a much better (if over the top) alternative to the SuddenSequelDeathSyndrome Chad received before her. And in the finale Denise makes a full recovery and saves the day.

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** For those who still don't think the Chanels got enough comeuppance in the Season 1 finale. The Season 2 premiere reveals that they were found innocent of their crimes but although they got famous through a Netflix documentary - this only led to them becoming despised by the public. They were also reduced to living in a cramped apartment apartment, working menial jobs. And when they're recruited to work in the hospital, they're still being unpaid and essentially depending on Dean Munsch's kindness.
** A scene in Season 2's second episode seems like an answer to a scene that annoyed people in Season 1 - where the Chanels [[DoubleStandardAbuseFemaleOnMale beat up two guys for hitting on them]]. Chanel #5 again gets violent on two mean guys - but this time the guys cruelly mock Tyler for his disease to his face. Additionally Additionally, #5 attacking them is not portrayed as an Awesome Moment - as the rest of the onlookers are freaked out and she explains it as an overreaction to coming off her medication.
** The reveal that Denise is still alive, albeit almost brain dead. The fact that they are putting Denise in a position to recover (i.e. cryogenically freezing her so that Munsch can find a "cure for electrocution") is seen as a much better (if over the top) alternative to the SuddenSequelDeathSyndrome Chad received before her. And in the finale finale, Denise makes a full recovery and saves the day.



** [[AlphaBitch Chanel Oberlin]] is the biggest one, and there's three bases that came from her (vs. the usual two) One base ''adores'' her, loves that she's the lead of the show, and thinks she is hilariously bitchy. The second base finds her entertaining, but thinks she is far too unlikeable, bitchy, and one-dimensional to be the lead character; they find her incredibly overexposed, but would like her a lot more with a smaller role. The third base straight up hates her due to her unrepentant bitchiness, finding it more annoying than amusing. Being portrayed by Creator/EmmaRoberts makes her even more divisive. She's only gotten more divisive as the show goes on. Her fans continue to praise her for being a royal bitch to everyone and also like to point out there's some scenes implying Chanel has HiddenDepths, such as defending Hester. On the other hand, her detractors points out that Chanel is becoming a hypocrite as she defends the same people she's bullied or, even worse, attempted to kill. She became even more divisive in Season Two, as her nicer side was shown even less and her bitchiness increased— some fans hated this, finding her too annoying to LoveToHate her, and others loved her even more.

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** [[AlphaBitch Chanel Oberlin]] is the biggest one, and there's three bases that came from her (vs. the usual two) One base ''adores'' her, loves that she's the lead of the show, and thinks she is hilariously bitchy. The second base finds her entertaining, but thinks she is far too unlikeable, bitchy, and one-dimensional to be the lead character; they find her incredibly overexposed, but would like her a lot more with a smaller role. The third base straight up straight-up hates her due to her unrepentant bitchiness, finding it more annoying than amusing. Being portrayed by Creator/EmmaRoberts makes her even more divisive. She's only gotten more divisive as the show goes on. Her fans continue to praise her for being a royal bitch to everyone and also like to point out there's that there are some scenes implying Chanel has HiddenDepths, such as defending Hester. On the other hand, her detractors points point out that Chanel is becoming a hypocrite as she defends the same people she's bullied or, even worse, attempted to kill. She became even more divisive in Season Two, as her nicer side was shown even less and her bitchiness increased— some fans hated this, finding her too annoying to LoveToHate her, and others loved her even more.



** [[NiceGirl Grace Gardner]]. Many viewers [[TheScrappy don't like her that much]], stating that outside of her being an OnlySaneMan, she's bland and uninteresting. Others don't seem mind her that much, if only because she's one of only a few of genuinely good people in a cast of [[AlphaBitch Alpha Bitches]] and [[AssholeVictim Asshole Victims]].
** Chanel #5 has quickly became one of the most divisive characters in the show. Some fans love her for her constant on-edge personality, Oscar-Nominee Abigail Breslin's killer performance, and being one of the more insecure realistic characters. However, others hate her for her constant whining, Abigail's performance (which was meant to be as whiny and obnoxious as possible) and for her standing up to Chanel O in almost every episode before immediately going back to being her minion five minutes later.

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** [[NiceGirl Grace Gardner]]. Many viewers [[TheScrappy don't like her that much]], stating that outside of her being an OnlySaneMan, she's bland and uninteresting. Others don't seem to mind her that much, if only because she's one of only a the few of genuinely good people in a cast of [[AlphaBitch Alpha Bitches]] and [[AssholeVictim Asshole Victims]].
** Chanel #5 has quickly became become one of the most divisive characters in the show. Some fans love her for her constant on-edge personality, Oscar-Nominee Abigail Breslin's killer performance, and being one of the more insecure realistic characters. However, others hate her for her constant whining, Abigail's performance (which was meant to be as whiny and obnoxious as possible) and for her standing up to Chanel O in almost every episode before immediately going back to being her minion five minutes later.



** The cafeteria scene in episode 4. While there's many who feel it's a feminist moment, there are also many who find it out of place and preachy, or even outright insincere and hypocritical, given how Chanel herself treats the other pledges. It's worth noting that Ryan Murphy was retweeting or giving thumbs up to Twitter posts during the scene saying things like "WOO! FEMINISM!"

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** The cafeteria scene in episode 4. While there's there are many who feel it's a feminist moment, there are also many who find it out of place and preachy, or even outright insincere and hypocritical, given how Chanel herself treats the other pledges. It's worth noting that Ryan Murphy was retweeting or giving thumbs up to Twitter posts during the scene saying things like "WOO! FEMINISM!"



** The constant jokes about Chanel #5's appearance. One half feels that it's getting too much and reinforcing negative stereotypes about beauty. The other thinks it still fits in with the show's CrossesTheLineTwice humour. A third camp feels that sympathy for #5 is the IntendedAudienceReaction. Chanel #5's general status as {{The Chew Toy}} has become this in season two. While there are plenty fans who still enjoy it, [[DesignatedMonkey a lot of fans feel]] that it's been done to death in the show and is no longer amusing and some feel it's too mean-spirited and unjustified and that #5's character is too [[TheWoobie miserable to laugh at her expense.]] There are also complaints that it often makes the other characters (particularly [[WithFriendsLikeThese Chanel and Chanel #3]]) cruel to the point of being unlikeable.

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** The constant jokes about Chanel #5's appearance. One half feels that it's getting too much and reinforcing negative stereotypes about beauty. The other thinks it still fits in with the show's CrossesTheLineTwice humour.humor. A third camp feels that sympathy for #5 is the IntendedAudienceReaction. Chanel #5's general status as {{The Chew Toy}} has become this in season two. While there are plenty of fans who still enjoy it, [[DesignatedMonkey a lot of fans feel]] that it's been done to death in the show and is no longer amusing and some feel it's too mean-spirited and unjustified and that #5's character is too [[TheWoobie miserable to laugh at her expense.]] There are also complaints that it often makes the other characters (particularly [[WithFriendsLikeThese Chanel and Chanel #3]]) cruel to the point of being unlikeable.



** Intentionally Grace, as of the finale. She basically allowed three people to be framed for crimes she knew they probably didn't commit [[TheDogBitesBack because she hated them that much after their endless bullying.]] Likewise, with the Chanels gone, Grace was capable of reforming KKT into a the kind of sorority she wanted (one with far fewer [[AlphaBitch alpha bitches]] and far less [[KickTheDog bullying]])

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** Intentionally Grace, as of the finale. She basically allowed three people to be framed for crimes she knew they probably didn't commit [[TheDogBitesBack because she hated them that much after their endless bullying.]] Likewise, with the Chanels gone, Grace was capable of reforming KKT into a the kind of sorority she wanted (one with far fewer [[AlphaBitch alpha bitches]] and far less [[KickTheDog bullying]])



* EndingFatigue: The last episode of Season One was criticized for consisting mostly of expositions and backstory for the killer.

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* EndingFatigue: The last episode of Season One was criticized for consisting mostly of expositions and backstory backstories for the killer.



** Chanel revealing the truth about Grace's mother is a very dark moment for the character. The incident prompts Denise to give Chanel a massive talking-to and she's ordered to apologise. It's implied that even Chanel herself thinks she may have gone too far.

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** Chanel revealing the truth about Grace's mother is a very dark moment for the character. The incident prompts Denise to give Chanel a massive talking-to and she's ordered to apologise.apologize. It's implied that even Chanel herself thinks she may have gone too far.



** Chanel #3 while hardly completely innocent: being shallow, classist and vain. While less interested or enthusiastic about hazing, she never did anything to stop the others. She also helped Chanel cover up the deaths of Chanel #2 and Mrs Bean. However due to her clearly being the [[TokenGoodTeammate nicest Chanel]] (being the only one of them to show any sign loyalty or care for her fellow sisters, being considerably less unkind towards pledges and also generally being overall nicer to others) led to many fans developing sympathy for her. The fact the series also ends with her also convinced that she is guilty and believing she murdered Sam, feels a bit harsh.

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** Chanel #3 while hardly completely innocent: being shallow, classist and vain. While less interested or enthusiastic about hazing, she never did anything to stop the others. She also helped Chanel cover up the deaths of Chanel #2 and Mrs Ms. Bean. However due to her clearly being the [[TokenGoodTeammate nicest Chanel]] (being the only one of them to show any sign loyalty or care for her fellow sisters, being considerably less unkind towards pledges and also generally being overall nicer to others) led to many fans developing sympathy for her. The fact the series also ends with her also convinced that she is guilty and believing she murdered Sam, feels a bit harsh.



** In the flashback when Pete is refused admission to DDS. This is clearly played as an elistist moment. However, the Dickies don't bring up issues of wealth, they bring up his lack of knowledge about golf and lack of interest in physical fitness. Since these are clearly the unifying forces of the frat, it's perfectly valid to say that he's not a suitable candidate.

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** In the flashback when Pete is refused admission to DDS. This is clearly played as an elistist elitist moment. However, the Dickies don't bring up issues of wealth, they bring up his lack of knowledge about golf and lack of interest in physical fitness. Since these are clearly the unifying forces of the frat, it's perfectly valid to say that he's not a suitable candidate.

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* VanillaProtagonist: As mentioned above many fans find Grace to be bland compared to many over the top characters in the show.
* WhatAnIdiot:
** There's quite a few moments, but the most JustForFun/{{egregious}} case was when Chanel #2 crawled towards her laptop to leave a tweet saying she needs help, as opposed to actually screaming or calling for help.
** This was most fans' reaction to Chanel letting Hester live with her and the other Chanels in season two.

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* VanillaProtagonist: As mentioned above many Many fans find Grace to be bland compared to many over the top characters in the show.
* WhatAnIdiot:
** There's quite a few moments, but the most JustForFun/{{egregious}} case was when Chanel #2 crawled towards her laptop to leave a tweet saying she needs help, as opposed to actually screaming or calling for help.
** This was most fans' reaction to Chanel letting Hester live with her and the other Chanels in season two.
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** [[AlphaBitch Chanel Oberlin]] is the biggest one, and there's three bases that came from her (vs. the usual two) One base ''adores'' her, loves that she's the lead of the show, and thinks she is hilariously bitchy. The second base finds her entertaining, but thinks she is far too unlikeable, bitchy, and one-dimensional to be the lead character; they find her incredibly overexposed, but would like her a lot more with a smaller role. The third base straight up hates her due to her unrepentant bitchiness, finding it more annoying than amusing. Being portrayed by Creator/EmmaRoberts makes her even more divisive. She's only gotten more divisive as the show goes on. Her fans continue to praise her for being a royal bitch to everyone and also like to point out there's some scenes implying Chanel has HiddenDepths, such as defending Hester. On the other hand, her detractors points out that Chanel is becoming a hypocrite as she defends the same people she's bullied or, even worse, attempted to kill.

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** [[AlphaBitch Chanel Oberlin]] is the biggest one, and there's three bases that came from her (vs. the usual two) One base ''adores'' her, loves that she's the lead of the show, and thinks she is hilariously bitchy. The second base finds her entertaining, but thinks she is far too unlikeable, bitchy, and one-dimensional to be the lead character; they find her incredibly overexposed, but would like her a lot more with a smaller role. The third base straight up hates her due to her unrepentant bitchiness, finding it more annoying than amusing. Being portrayed by Creator/EmmaRoberts makes her even more divisive. She's only gotten more divisive as the show goes on. Her fans continue to praise her for being a royal bitch to everyone and also like to point out there's some scenes implying Chanel has HiddenDepths, such as defending Hester. On the other hand, her detractors points out that Chanel is becoming a hypocrite as she defends the same people she's bullied or, even worse, attempted to kill. She became even more divisive in Season Two, as her nicer side was shown even less and her bitchiness increased— some fans hated this, finding her too annoying to LoveToHate her, and others loved her even more.



** [[VillainProtagonist Chanel Oberlin]], already a BaseBreakingCharacter has gotten even more disliked to the point where she is starting to become this.
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** Grace is hated by most of the fans because her character is too bland and boring.
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** The reveal that the final Green Meanie is none other than Wes Gardner. On one side, people are completely pissed that they turned one of the few genuinely good people in the show and the only other male survivor from season one into a bloodthirsty killer for almost explanation at all, especially since this completely clashes over his characterization the previous season. On the other side, people are ecstatic since it means it wasn't some chump we hadn't met before and that we get to see Oliver Hudson show off more of his acting chops than just "Overprotective Dad."

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** The reveal that the final Green Meanie is none other than Wes Gardner. On one side, people are completely pissed that they turned one of the few genuinely good people in the show and the only other male survivor from season one into a bloodthirsty killer for almost no explanation at all, especially since this completely clashes over his characterization the previous season. On the other side, people are ecstatic since it means it wasn't some chump we hadn't met before and that we get to see Oliver Hudson show off more of his acting chops than just "Overprotective Dad."
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* ShockingSwerve: A lot of twists come completely out of nowhere, but then make a huge amount of sense later on. There being two bathtub babies, however, is shocking and contradicts flashbacks.

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* SugarWiki/DevelopmentHeaven: Jamie Lee Curtis studied the shower scene in ''{{Film/Psycho}}'' carefully, right down to which hand reached for the soap, to recreate the smallest details.



* FunnyAneurysmMoment:
** The scene where Gigi, dressed in a robe and mask to make her resemble Justice Antonin Scalia, is beaten up by Dean Munsch while the latter screams rebuttals against Scalia's real-world political views in her face. Regardless of your politics, re-watching the scene hits new highs of discomfort knowing that Scalia died suddenly less than three months after the episode aired.


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** Chanel's insulting and harsh missive was leaked, exposing her true nature to the world and making her come under much public fire. Creator/KimKardashian would later leak a private call she had with Taylor Swift, exposing a lie Taylor made and making her come under much public fire. This coincidence comes off the heels of Chanel already being set up as a parallel for Taylor Swift, when the singer's Swiftmas was parodied by Chanel.
** In the second episode Hester says to close the eyes of Chanel #2's body otherwise "she'll take one of us with her". Come the end of the series all four characters present in the scene - Hester, Chanel, #3 and #5 are still alive.
** Dean Munsch trying to reassure Wes that he doesn't need to be an overprotective parent is downright hilarious when Jamie Lee Curtis returns for ''Film/{{Halloween 2018}}'' and [[KnightTemplarParent Laurie's characterization in it]].

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** Chanel's insulting and harsh missive was leaked, exposing her true nature to the world and making her come under much public fire. Creator/KimKardashian would later leak a private call she had with Taylor Swift, Music/TaylorSwift, exposing a lie Taylor made and making her come under much public fire. This coincidence comes off the heels of Chanel already being set up as a parallel for Taylor Swift, when the singer's Swiftmas was parodied by Chanel.
** In the second episode Hester says to close the eyes of Chanel #2's body otherwise "she'll take one of us with her". Come to the end of the series all four characters present in the scene - Hester, Chanel, #3 and #5 are still alive.
** Dean Munsch trying to reassure Wes that he doesn't need to be an overprotective parent is downright hilarious when Jamie Lee Curtis Creator/JamieLeeCurtis returns for ''Film/{{Halloween 2018}}'' and [[KnightTemplarParent Laurie's characterization in it]].



** Skyler Samuels (Grace) played an AlphaBitch named Gigi on Series/WizardsOfWaverlyPlace. Nasim Pedrad's character on this show was also named Gigi.

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** Skyler Samuels Creator/SkylerSamuels (Grace) played an AlphaBitch named Gigi on Series/WizardsOfWaverlyPlace. Nasim Pedrad's Creator/NasimPedrad's character on this show was also named Gigi.



* HoYay: One sided with Hester's obsession with the Chanels, especially Chanel #1, in a weird, stalkerish way. She did tons of research about KKT before pledging, asks to call them all 'Mom', and after being given a makeover and transformed into Chanel #6, she considers having to hold Chanel #1's hair on 'Purge Night' a pleasure. It turns out that she wants everything that Chanel #1 has and is.

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with Hester's obsession with the Chanels, especially Chanel #1, in a weird, stalkerish way. She did tons of research about KKT before pledging, asks to call them all 'Mom', and after being given a makeover and transformed into Chanel #6, she considers having to hold Chanel #1's hair on 'Purge Night' a pleasure. It turns out that she wants everything that Chanel #1 has and is.



** Hester may have turned to be a manipulative, brown nosing, two faced bitch but she admits that it comes from having a lonely life due to her neckbrace to top it off Chanel callously attempts to kills her after [[BaitTheDog pretending to forgive her]] She manages to survive though, so its nulled a little.

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** Hester may have turned to be a manipulative, brown nosing, two faced brown-nosing, two-faced bitch but she admits that it comes from having a lonely life due to her neckbrace to top it off Chanel callously attempts to kills her after [[BaitTheDog pretending to forgive her]] She manages to survive though, so its nulled a little.



** By the end of the series, [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold Chad Radwell]] definitely counts. While he's the campus' resident JerkJock, most of Chad's {{Jerkass}} tendencies come from sheer stupidity rather than outright malice (unlike a large majority of the characters), and [[HiddenDepths is among the two characters who haven't tried to murder anyone by the end of the finale]] (the other being Denise Hemphille). These alone make him one of the more sympathetic characters on this show. However, what really seals his woobie status is that, as of the end of the show, Chad's HeterosexualLifePartner and best friend, Boone is not only a murderer, but also dead, and the rest of his fratbrothers (who he clearly cares a great deal for and considers to be his closest friends) have also been killed by the red devils, leaving Chad as the SoleSurvivor of the Dickie Dollar Scholars. This is clearly something he finds incredibly devastating, to the point he even [[ManlyTears starts to break down and cry as he mourns them in the finale, saying he has nothing left to live for.]] And his reaction to everything that happened? Open a charity fund dedicated to his fallen friends with a genuine goal to help others in a SugarWiki/{{Heartwarming Moment|s}}... [[SugarWiki/FunnyMoments well, kinda]]. [[TraumaCongaLine And for good measure on top of all of that]], [[ArsonMurderAndJayWalking Denise Hemphill breaks up with him in the last episode.]]

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** By the end of the series, [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold Chad Radwell]] definitely counts. While he's the campus' resident JerkJock, most of Chad's {{Jerkass}} tendencies come from sheer stupidity rather than outright malice (unlike a large majority of the characters), and [[HiddenDepths is among the two characters who haven't tried to murder anyone by the end of the finale]] (the other being Denise Hemphille). These alone make him one of the more sympathetic characters on this show. However, what really seals his woobie status is that, as of the end of the show, Chad's HeterosexualLifePartner and best friend, Boone is not only a murderer, but also dead, and the rest of his fratbrothers frat brothers (who he clearly cares a great deal for and considers to be his closest friends) have also been killed by the red devils, leaving Chad as the SoleSurvivor of the Dickie Dollar Scholars. This is clearly something he finds incredibly devastating, to the point he even [[ManlyTears starts to break down and cry as he mourns them in the finale, saying he has nothing left to live for.]] And his reaction to everything that happened? Open a charity fund dedicated to his fallen friends with a genuine goal to help others in a SugarWiki/{{Heartwarming Moment|s}}... [[SugarWiki/FunnyMoments well, kinda]]. [[TraumaCongaLine And for good measure on top of all of that]], [[ArsonMurderAndJayWalking Denise Hemphill breaks up with him in the last episode.]]



** An in universe example, Pete confesses to Grace that he was a Red Devil and a murderer. She is utterly horrified even with the justification being that Pete would have been killed otherwise and that it meant that Grace was no longer a target for the other Red Devils.

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** An in universe InUniverse example, Pete confesses to Grace that he was a Red Devil and a murderer. She is utterly horrified even with the justification being that Pete would have been killed otherwise and that it meant that Grace was no longer a target for the other Red Devils.



** Boone crossed it when he murdered Earl. While a well established mass murderer by this point, up till then it was possible to believe he was a revenge mission or a PunchClockVillain. Murdering one of your friends, just to have a shot with his girlfriend is just cold though.

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** Boone crossed it when he murdered Earl. While a well established well-established mass murderer by this point, up till then it was possible to believe he was a revenge mission or a PunchClockVillain. Murdering one of your friends, just to have a shot with his girlfriend is just cold though.



* NarrowedItDownToTheGuyIRecognize: Nick Jonas and Lea Michele are hands down the most famous actors among the college students (together with Emma Roberts and Ariana Grande, but the former's character is ObviouslyEvil, the latter doesn't even make it through the Pilot). Turns out Boone and Hester are the Red Devil Twins. Jamie Lee Curtis is another high-profile figure in the cast and she may not have had any active part in the Red Devil killings, but she's still guilty of murdering her husband and framing his girlfriend.

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* NarrowedItDownToTheGuyIRecognize: Nick Jonas Creator/NickJonas and Lea Michele Creator/LeaMichele are hands down the most famous actors among the college students (together with Emma Roberts Creator/EmmaRoberts and Ariana Grande, Music/ArianaGrande, but the former's character is ObviouslyEvil, the latter doesn't even make it through the Pilot). Turns out Boone and Hester are the Red Devil Twins. Jamie Lee Curtis Creator/JamieLeeCurtis is another high-profile figure in the cast and she may not have had any active part in the Red Devil killings, but she's still guilty of murdering her husband and framing his girlfriend.



** [[CampGay Boone]] was a scrappy before the show even began, mainly due to casting Creator/NickJonas. After the show aired, public reception to him vastly improved with a lot of people citing him as one of the highlights of the show.

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** [[CampGay Boone]] was a scrappy TheScrappy before the show even began, mainly due to casting Creator/NickJonas. After the show aired, public reception to him vastly improved with a lot of people citing him as one of the highlights of the show.



* RewatchBonus: Re-watching the series reveals that there was quite a lot of missed foreshadowing to the killer(s) identity. Also, several scenes make a lot more sense after a second watching, once you know who the killer(s) were. Plus the added bonus of figuring out which character was acting as the Red Devil during certain scenes.

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Re-watching the series reveals that there was quite a lot of missed foreshadowing to the killer(s) identity. Also, several scenes make a lot more sense after a second watching, once you know who the killer(s) were. Plus the added bonus of figuring out which character was acting as the Red Devil during certain scenes.



** Chad Radwell receives only one brief scene during the entire two part finale which, while hilarious, has ''zero'' bearing on the Red Devil plot. He plays no actual role in the resolution of the story - in fact, he doesn't even witness it, despite there being ''loads and loads'' of one shot characters present - and never gets to react to the Chanels being arrested and KKT reforming under Zayday, Grace, and Hester. The fact that he was dropped from the main titles in Season 2 and only reduced to recurring status (not to mention being killed off three episodes in) doesn't help.

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** Chad Radwell receives only one brief scene during the entire two part two-part finale which, while hilarious, has ''zero'' bearing on the Red Devil plot. He plays no actual role in the resolution of the story - in fact, he doesn't even witness it, despite there being ''loads and loads'' of one shot one-shot characters present - and never gets to react to the Chanels being arrested and KKT reforming under Zayday, Grace, and Hester. The fact that he was dropped from the main titles in Season 2 and only reduced to recurring status (not to mention being killed off three episodes in) doesn't help.
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** [[AlphaBitch Chanel Oberlin]] is the biggest one, and there's three bases that came from her (vs. the usual two) One base ''adores'' her, loves that she's the lead of the show, and thinks she is hilariously bitchy. The second base finds her entertaining, but thinks she is far too unlikeable, bitchy, and one-dimensional to be the lead character; they find her incredibly overexposed, but would like her a lot more with a smaller role. The third base straight up hates her due to her unrepentant bitchiness, finding it more annoying than amusing. Being portrayed by Creator/EmmaRoberts makes her even more divisive, [[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment seeing that Emma herself is a very divisive person and actress.]] And she's only gotten more divisive as the show goes on. Her fans continue to praise her for being a royal bitch to everyone and also like to point out there's some scenes implying Chanel has HiddenDepths, such as defending Hester. On the other hand, her detractors points out that Chanel is becoming a hypocrite as she defends the same people she's bullied or, even worse, attempted to kill.
** Denise Hempville, the security guard assigned to protect the girls of Kappa Kappa Tau. Some fans [[EnsembleDarkhorse love her]], finding her to be among the funniest characters in her debut episode as well as her "GTFO" attitude towards the killer being present. On the other hand, a lot of fans [[TheScrappy utterly loathe her]], seeing her as a terribly written, obnoxious, and [[UncleTomfoolery racist]] stereotype, as well as a ripoff of Reese from ''Film/UrbanLegend''. [[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment Again, this could be as much the actress as the character.]]
** Hester Ulrich. Some viewers find her psychopathic tendencies to be hilarious, and feel she steals every scene despite her small role, but a sizable amount of viewers also found her extremely psychopathic personality to be as creepy as the characters did. [[RunningGag Again,]] [[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment the choice of actress could have something to do with this.]] She's become even more divisive as the show continues, with some fans loving Michele's performance and the plotline about her trying to replace Chanel, citing her as one of the most entertaining, original, and interesting characters of the show. On the flipside, a lot of fans are tired of her being a "wanna-be Chanel" (despite the two being very different characters) and find her BackstabbingTheAlphaBitch storyline to be redundant as there already is an AlphaBitch with Chanel Oberlin. [[RunningGag And, as said, there's also a large segment who just hates her because it's Lea Michele (not even because of her acting, because of the actress).]]

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** [[AlphaBitch Chanel Oberlin]] is the biggest one, and there's three bases that came from her (vs. the usual two) One base ''adores'' her, loves that she's the lead of the show, and thinks she is hilariously bitchy. The second base finds her entertaining, but thinks she is far too unlikeable, bitchy, and one-dimensional to be the lead character; they find her incredibly overexposed, but would like her a lot more with a smaller role. The third base straight up hates her due to her unrepentant bitchiness, finding it more annoying than amusing. Being portrayed by Creator/EmmaRoberts makes her even more divisive, [[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment seeing that Emma herself is a very divisive person and actress.]] And she's divisive. She's only gotten more divisive as the show goes on. Her fans continue to praise her for being a royal bitch to everyone and also like to point out there's some scenes implying Chanel has HiddenDepths, such as defending Hester. On the other hand, her detractors points out that Chanel is becoming a hypocrite as she defends the same people she's bullied or, even worse, attempted to kill.
** Denise Hempville, the security guard assigned to protect the girls of Kappa Kappa Tau. Some fans [[EnsembleDarkhorse love her]], finding her to be among the funniest characters in her debut episode as well as her "GTFO" attitude towards the killer being present. On the other hand, a lot of fans [[TheScrappy utterly loathe her]], seeing her as a terribly written, obnoxious, and [[UncleTomfoolery racist]] stereotype, as well as a ripoff of Reese from ''Film/UrbanLegend''. [[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment Again, this could be as much the actress as the character.]]\n
** Hester Ulrich. Some viewers find her psychopathic tendencies to be hilarious, and feel she steals every scene despite her small role, but a sizable amount of viewers also found her extremely psychopathic personality to be as creepy as the characters did. [[RunningGag Again,]] [[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment the choice of actress could have something to do with this.]] She's become even more divisive as the show continues, with some fans loving Michele's performance and the plotline about her trying to replace Chanel, citing her as one of the most entertaining, original, and interesting characters of the show. On the flipside, a lot of fans are tired of her being a "wanna-be Chanel" (despite the two being very different characters) and find her BackstabbingTheAlphaBitch storyline to be redundant as there already is an AlphaBitch with Chanel Oberlin. [[RunningGag And, as said, there's also a large segment who just hates her because it's Lea Michele (not even because of her acting, because of the actress).]]

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