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Tahaneira Since: Oct, 2009
Mar 9th 2014 at 1:49:53 PM •••

Just curious, would the Minstrel's opening of the story count as a Foregone Conclusion that he (and by extension, the world) survives, since he seems to be telling Agatha's story?

Candi Sorcerer in training Since: Aug, 2012
Sorcerer in training
Mar 30th 2013 at 6:02:54 AM •••

This strikes me as a Getting Crap Past the Radar moment. Or something.

http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20080404

The dark girl in purple with the covered face, second panel. Look at her hand. Hand fisted, thumb between first two fingers and pointed at Zola. In some cultures, that is a massive insult. Somewhere between middle finger and cursing the target to hell. Sometimes called a fig. (First learned about it in "Do's and Taboos around the World.)

http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20080714 Talk about Schizotech. This giant clockwork steampunk/gaslamp machine is drawing blood to see if Agatha is a Heterodyne -in other words, DNA analysis.

Edited by Candi Coming back to where you started is not the same as never leaving. -Terry Pratchett
kittengrl39 kittengrl39 Since: Feb, 2010
kittengrl39
Apr 5th 2011 at 5:41:10 PM •••

When looking at the History page, I found that someone apparently believes Zola's mind has died and Lucrezia is now in control and has edited the tropes accordingly. I would be fine with this, except that I am not sure that this is in fact the case. Going by this comic, especially: http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20110223 If this copy of Lucrezia is now 'freed' after Zola had her in a mental trap, why would the copy not mention that difficulty to Anevka? Why not make her other self aware of that threat - and the threat of the rest of the family, which Zola says here http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20100712 'learned everything' from the former loremistress Milvistle? And we already have proof that Zola is an excellent actress and can pull information from Lucrezia's mind at will. I simply don't feel that we can be certain enough to put that Zola's mind is definitely dead in the tropes. Should those edits stay or go?

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LaserShark Since: Oct, 2012
Apr 7th 2011 at 9:49:57 AM •••

I'd say we definitely can't count Zola out at this point. Until someone, well, other than Other!Zola says her mind's gone, there's at least a 50% chance she's still in charge, and probably much higher.

Candi Since: Aug, 2012
Mar 30th 2013 at 5:58:29 AM •••

I agree. I also think it's tacky to edit tropes according to a theory until 100% canon proof is given one way or the other. ESPECIALLY with a story like Girl Genius.

Coming back to where you started is not the same as never leaving. -Terry Pratchett
TwinBird Dunkies addict Since: Oct, 2009
Dunkies addict
May 16th 2011 at 3:07:45 PM •••

I've removed a lengthy entry for Rule of Symbolism that lays out, note by note, Klaus's intent in the story he's telling Phil. It's probably at least partially right, and it's almost certain that the intent is for Phil to get Gil a coded message, but how Gil will take that message, and how Klaus intends it, is really too speculative for the main page for now. Does Rule of Symbolism really apply for stories like this, anyway?

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Candi Since: Aug, 2012
Mar 30th 2013 at 5:57:03 AM •••

For that particular story, either Rule of Symbolism or a secret/coded message trope applies.

The one obvious message seems to be for Gil to kill the Other and the Baron before too much damage is done. Anything else is iffy. (Like the Von Pinn bit/sword-hair pin bit.)

Coming back to where you started is not the same as never leaving. -Terry Pratchett
Candi Since: Aug, 2012
Mar 30th 2013 at 5:57:03 AM •••

For that particular story, either Rule of Symbolism or a secret/coded message trope applies.

The one obvious message seems to be for Gil to kill the Other and the Baron before too much damage is done. Anything else is iffy. (Like the Von Pinn bit/sword-hair pin bit.)

Coming back to where you started is not the same as never leaving. -Terry Pratchett
167.127.107.9 Since: Dec, 1969
Mar 29th 2011 at 10:32:40 AM •••

Either I'm a bit confused about the term Arc Words, or this entry is. I thought it concerned phrases that had significant plot relevance, rather than just catch phrases.

Eamil Since: Feb, 2010
Jan 2nd 2011 at 10:49:12 PM •••

In today's page, Agatha whams an opponent over the head with a thick book titled "Using Found Objects As Weapons." I was going to put this under "Shaped Like Itself" but then I realized that doesn't seem quite right. Would it be considered a variation on that or is there something else (or nothing) it would fit under?

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StFan Since: Jan, 2001
Jan 3rd 2011 at 12:26:24 AM •••

Well, it's a textbook case of Lampshade Hanging at the very least.

Even better with the "TOME!" Unsound Effect.

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AFP Since: Mar, 2010
Jan 5th 2011 at 2:43:11 AM •••

I put it under Improvised Weapon and "Exactly What It Says on the Tin (although, for the purposes of the comic, I'd still say that "Ocean In A Bottle" is the Most Triumphant Example.

zarpaulus Since: Jan, 2001
Jackalyn Since: Jan, 2001
Nov 26th 2010 at 9:15:04 PM •••

[[This http://community.livejournal.com/haus_of_klaus/25974.html#cutid1]] is the nearest I can find. Maybe someone else has something better?

JoveHack Since: Jan, 2001
Nov 27th 2010 at 12:55:33 AM •••

In the Cinderella storyline the wicked stepmother predicts

"If dose eediot princes gets a look at her, she gonna vin dis ting vit a houseplant and a dead mouse."

Result? "Hy KNEW it!"

Edited by JoveHack Sleep depraved.
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