I'm starting to notice that one too many tropes listed on "Best of the Worst" are about the movies themselves instead of the show. I don't think that's a good thing. Tropes belonging to the movies alone should be put on the movie's page (or in ROTOR's particular case, wait until somebody makes it) instead of adding them.
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You're right. Feel free to zap or move the offending entries. You can park tropes about movies that don't have a page yet on this very discussion page.
Let's just say and leave it at that.
- Metaphorgotten: This gem from R.O.T.O.R.:
Coldyron: You fire me, and I'll make more noise than two skeletons making love in a tin coffin, brother!
- Deadpan Snarker: The Robot Cop in R.O.T.O.R., who is constantly complaining and sass-talking to the head scientist.
- Bizarre Alien Reproduction
- The ending of The Killer Eye finds the two female leads pregnant via the giant eye stalk.
- To say nothing of the woman impregnated by the Alien!Father and giving birth to the father in fully grown human form in Xtro.
Cyclopsman
So, i see a bunch of people stating that there won't be anymore plinkett reviews. is this true? and, if so, is there a link to a statement regarding this? It isn't on the site or his twitter.
...not sure what to put here, really.
What is the trope for when in the episode of Half In The Bag: The Dark Knight Rises, they speak of "emotional core"?
Did anyone actually check on the 108 pages rebuttal on The Phantom Menace review? Did it gave anything new to the discussion or is 100% fan-wank? why Plinket hasn't taken the time to debunk that rebuttal too?
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What exactly is that song that Plinkett uses when he's making a list of things that don't make sense but aren't worth having their own section? (one plays at 27:36 in his First Contact review or 28:45 in part 3 of the Rot S review.) He uses it quite a bit and it's bugging me.
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There is a LOT of songs called "Oranges" out there. Any chance you know the author as well?
Mr.Plinkett keeps talking about the dissolution of tension in a scene in Attack of the Clones where Obi Wan its pursued by Jango Feet ship and cant hit his ship to the point that there is no point of worrying about Obi Wan dying. But why he didnt mention about the fact that because this is a prequel, even if he scene was well done there is still no tension because we know Obi Wan makes it alive to the original trilogy, so how is any tension to begin with?
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There are many, many, many works that make use of a Foregone Conclusion that still manage to convince the audience that they should care about what happens next. Additionally, despite some exceptions, it's generally understood that the hero is NOT going to die in a cliffhanger serial or a work inspired by a cliffhanger serial. No one really thinks Flash Gordon is going to die in one of his adventures, or that the main character of a TV series will get killed off three episodes in. But skillful direction and well-rounded characters can trick your brain into genuinely worrying. When you re-watch a movie or a TV show or re-read a book, you know exactly what's going to happen, but that doesn't mean the tension can't get to you. Basically, knowing in advance what's going to happen does not excuse poor filmmaking.
In the Baby's Day Out review i think i heard the Eversion World -8 music during his Sanity Slippage. Quite an obscure piece of music for someone that keeps bashing some movies for being like video games
Not sure if it belongs here but i will post anyway because i am kinda inspired by Mr. Plinkett. Why in the Phantom Menace review, when he used some people to identify certain star wars characters by their attributes, they could not pinpoint anything on the prequel characters??? I mean, there ARE tropes around them to identify so why they could not get anything right?? Was it because they act badly and they couldn't give a crap of how they behaved??? Or people (or should i say the normal movie goer?) cant really get anything beyond the boundaries of having a protagonist that they cant relate to? Maybe this was the point where Lucas became like Charles Foster Kane just after finishing the first trilogy of Star Wars. He didn't have full control back then and i am going to say that he wanted to make something VERY different to show that people CAN enjoy something different and a coming of age story, however the executives probably limited the script to the point that it should use tropes that are more or less the same things that have been used before over and over because going for something radically different will scare and confuse people up and the studio wouldn't make any money. The fact that Lucas has to dumb down his magnus opus by the executives standars AND for them to actually have a point 3 times already (A New Hope + Empire Strikes Back + Return of The Jedi) that the people dont want to be challenged when they go for entertainment started Lucas's Start of Darkness where he no longer gave a fuck. I wonder, in this day an age, what would happen to the Star Wars original trilogy it it were to be released after the advent of Internet?? Lets pretend for the sake of argument that the Internet reached its peak back in 1977, would this series fell like another cliche storm movie back then?? After all, one cant really say that certain book is the best they ever read when its the ONLY book they ever read -_-. With a database like the Internet. would still hold up??
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The really sad thing is that the original trilogy characters are mostly just bog-standard character archetypes. Plinkett actually LISTS them as such, and the people interviewed just rehash the same idea in different words.
I suspected as such because if Prequel characters were bland as they are portrayed during the reviews then their Character sheet will be very short to say the least. I think that at this point who will question Red Letter Media or the rest of the bloody planet to say that maybe the prequels were more subtle and unconventional on their characters; Even suggesting the possibility that maybe they THINK that the original trilogy characters felt rich because of constant re-watching of the series allowed to grasp every detail that was missing during the first time (not to offend other fanbases but maybe the SW fans thought that there wasn't anything else to watch/read and doesn't help that there wasn't Internet back then and anything could seem original even if the formula has been done to death). RLM should at least try to compare the characters of the prequels with already existing ones in other series of movies/books/games/whatever with the same characteristics but in a plot that doesn't bring that many questions. Think about it, if the plot is consistent then maybe the only thing that the audience needs to understand is the characters and their motivations and subtle changes. The less questions the audience ask to themselves the better.
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Raxis
Why no mention of Did Not Do The Research or Completely Missing The Point? The guy making these movies demonstrates a fairly clear lack of understanding of some of the nuances of what he's reviewing.
¿No trope regarding when Plinkette suddenly cuts away shy from saying a complete though-
Number 4. Nothing makes sense.
I've been thinking lately that the Red Letter Media page should be split into two sections: one for tropes pertaining to the analysis of the films, and the other for tropes pertaining to the Mr. Plinkett plotline itself. Good idea?
"Wax on, wax off..." "But Mr. Miyagi, I don't see how this is helping me do Karate..." "Pubic hair is weakness, Daniel-san!"
-wouldn't have thought you could doublepost in this-
Edited by DonZabu "Wax on, wax off..." "But Mr. Miyagi, I don't see how this is helping me do Karate..." "Pubic hair is weakness, Daniel-san!"
Wish granter
Complete Monster? So he is worse than Distressed Watcher?
Because he know I'm going to go out in this plane and I'm going to remove one of His creations from His universe.
{{cloudcuckoolander}}
Uhhh...I hope nobody minds but I just want to know why Matthew The Raven suggested to do what...he suggested in the history box.
stupid logo redesign makes me change my avatar!
We really should put RLM's shows on their own pages.