Linking to a past Trope Repair Shop thread that dealt with this page: Needs Help
, started by Nezumi on Mar 26th 2012 at 9:30:22 PM
in regards to Call of Duty: Black Ops 2, I feel as though the example given for the KSG is misleading - it was my favorite shotgun in the time I played the game because it was a near-perfectly accurate shotgun that fired slugs - it was almost like carrying around a rifle. the slugs also certainly _did not_ "vanish after a few metres"
for example, I used it to headshot folks across courtyards and a block or two down streets. further examples can be seen at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63rHVic0z48 , or by searching for "black ops 2 ksg snipe" on youtube.
should this bit be removed in the face of inaccurate statements? I don't want to jump the gun, having made one edit in the short time I've been on tvtropes.
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On the XCOM subject... Shotguns can, on the hands of a competent soldiers (Colonel Ranked assaults, best of the best in their class, and no, basic soldiers are competent but not yet elite since Council Nations offer you high ranked soldiers as rewards for missions at times), shoot enemies out of cover at 20 squares away roughly 40% of the times without aiming help, in the middle of a firefight where their lives are at risk, and after a fast walk of roughly 12 squares (or a sprint of roughly 25 if using Run And Gun, one of their abilities). 20 in-game squares is (according to maps) about the length of a video rental shop. Is it short range or realistic for a shotgun? Thanks!
For a picture, why not use the small stats panel of one of the various shotguns from Borderlands that literally have "0.0 accuracy"?
>Also, at this time, we would like to make a few corrections: Shotguns are actually not hilariously, stupidly inaccurate.
>SWAT 4
In fact shotguns in SWAT 4 ARE inaccurate. Their spread is wider than it should be.
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Whats weird though is that the spread of the buckshot is equal to the PC's accuracy. Running will make the spread equal to most of the shotguns in COD, while crouching will reduce the spread to fairly realistic (for a realistic shotgun with a high spread). The slug shots, while in real life have a fairly good range, somehow have a shorter range then the buckshot rounds. Bean bag rounds are complete realistic in range though.
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However, it feels as if both the buckshot and slug rounds are as powerful as a single bullet from a rifle. Ive hit enemies well near 3 times with a shotgun and they didn't die
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Not sure if I should put this in the main article:
Played for laughs in a ep of red vs blue (chapter 8, season 7 (I think)). http://redvsblue.com/archive/?id=814 at 2.44.
Grif: (to Sarge) I imagine it can be pretty hard to be an ineffective leader with no respect.... Sarge: (Pulls trigger on shotgun) ((BLAM)) Grif:....who doesn't understand that his primary weapon has an effective range much shorter than most weapons.
OK, discussion time again. There's lots of aversions listed here, as well as a contrasting trope, 'Shotguns Are Just Better' Shouldn't we use that one for when a shotgun works like a ('real') shotgun, and wipe the normal aversions from here?
There are 2 separate entries for Wasteland 2 on this page, one at the bottom of 'RPGs' (shared with Wasteland 3), the other a short way down 'Strategy Games'. Not having played the game I'm not sure which one should be deleted.
Edited by ArcaneAzmadi Always expect the worst and you can only be pleasantly surprised.