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Cull the real life section: probably not appropriate given the trope — and it had turned into a personal complaining outlet.
Ok, is it just me, or is the hatedom for FBOFW kinda getting out of control? Most of the examples there sound more like Alternative Character Interpretations to me, but I could conceivably be wrong. But one part in particular I want to address:
", and everyone blames April for killing Farley. It goes hand in hand with their refusal to apologize for anything; since nothing can ever be their fault, they can't apologize.
For the record, Farley died saving April from drowning in a swiftly-moving river. Makes one wonder where the threshold for this trope stops and the one for Jerk Ass begins..."
Seriously, did I read the same comic as the rest of you? Because I'm totally blanking on when this whole "Let's all abuse April" thing happened. What I DO remember is the family being (understandably) shocked and sad that the dog was dead, and talking about how April would have been dead if it hadn't been for him. I remember them being grateful that she didn't drown. I remember the VERY young April (she was, what, 4, 5?) suffering some amount of PTSD after the incident, which manifested largely as separation anxiety (she was very needy and clingy with her mother) and basically being treated rather sympathetically because of this. And I do vaguely remember April blaming herself for the incident, but that's another trope entirely...
From this entry, you'd think the entire family spent the second half of the arc using her as a tiny little punching bag or something. I mean, for heaven's sake, I know the strip suffered a severe drop in quality during it's last few years or so of syndication, and the recent redone oldies aren't doing it any favors, but does that really merit giving the entire main cast (except for April) the Ron the Death Eater treatment?
Pardon me for going on so long, this has just been bugging me for a while.
John Pope at the 2nd battle of Bull Run (Manassas), in 1863 came up with stupid idea of flanking the confederate troops, by attacking Thomas (Stonewall) Jackson's group of soldiers. Long story short the attack failed and the confederates won the battle. The reason why was because Pope forgot to see where Longstreet's troops were located at. He then goes on to blame Fitz John Porter for the loss, not thinking that it was his stupidity, not Porter's actions that caused the confederates to win.
This real life example had turned into a natter thread:
I should mention that the resulting burns resulted in the necessity of reconstructive surgery along her thighs buttocks and genitals due to the third degree burns. Is your coffee hot enough to do that? Do you honestly think the store that kept the coffee at that insane temperature and handed it out to people in moving vehicles with nothing but a thin plastic top that peels off easily is in no way negligent to the fact that people are imperfect and someone spilling coffee on themselves was a possibility? As for the multimillion dollar suing, if she sued for a few grand, why would Mc Donalds care? In order to make sure a corporation fears being sued for negligence, they have to sue for an amount enough to make the corporation feel some pain.
This is the old discussion, from when the trope was called "You Blockhead".
Ungvichian: Proposed trope: Screaming With Binky, as the opposite of All My Fault. Look at this page for examples. Of course, there are non-Binky examples: Lucy blames Charlie Brown for missing a game-deciding last-second FG in a Peanuts special, and Homer Simpson's Flash Back to a floor gymnastics tumble in the "Bart Star" episode.
Hold any water?
Ununnilium: I've looked at the page and its explanation of the "Screaming with Binky" shorts and I still don't understand what you mean.
Ungvichian: Binky yells at jeweler, then blames him for miscutting a diamond. Lucy pulls football, then blames Charlie Brown for missing a field goal. Abe yells at Homer, then blames him for falling during his routine. There's a common theme here...
Ununnilium: Ah, well, shoulda just said. I'm not sure, this feels more like... a character type, perhaps?
Ungvichian: It's clearly situational, actually.
Susan Davis: It's something that Tsundere characters frequently do, so it can be character-linked (it's way in character for Lucy, for example, but it wouldn't be for Sally), but it's not just a character type. I think.
Ungvichian: Picking up a few months later, considering that Lucy's example is pretty famous, how about... You Blockhead?
Lale: "Blockhead" may be Lucy's Catch Phrase, but I remember Sally's rant at Linus in It's the Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown! where she calls him a blockhead like three times. That's got to be the best "You blockhead!" scene in that show ever.
I removed the Mc Donald's coffee example, because it's actually a bad one: The coffee was way too hot to be served to a human (it scalded her genitals and fused her labia shut) but Mc Donald's served it anyway. See here: http://www.lectlaw.com/files/cur78.htm
Should we add a troper tales page?
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