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CyrilPMG Since: Dec, 2013
Mar 23rd 2019 at 2:26:53 AM •••

The image of Anakin Skywalker is actually a good example of Call-Forward ("when a character in a Prequel or Flashback makes an offhand comment about something that viewers know will happen in the future, but the character him or herself is unaware of"). A better image should be used here to avoid confusion.

LinguaViva Since: Nov, 2010
Dec 27th 2012 at 7:04:18 PM •••

If a work set in the past makes an allusion to some future event, is that Foreshadowing or Foregone Conclusion? I'm specifically thinking of a film scene in which an anti-semite insults a Jewish character before shutting him in a cattle car and sending him to Eastern Europe. During World War I (the character is a soldier in the German army on his way to the Eastern Front). It obviously evokes the character's fate, should he survive the war, but events beyond World War I are never depicted.

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Telcontar MOD Since: Feb, 2012
Dec 28th 2012 at 3:44:41 AM •••

That's Forgone Conclusion. Foreshadowing alludes to future events that happen within the story, though you don't know what they are yet. The example you gave uses the audiences' knowledge of what will happen to tell the guy's story although it's never depicted.

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vifetoile Queen of Filks Since: Jan, 2001
Queen of Filks
Nov 14th 2012 at 4:34:55 AM •••

Cut these lines in "Western Animation":

  • (In Tangled) The song "Mother Knows Best" has many clever hints to Gothel's eventual fate.
    Go ahead and leave me, I deserve it
    Let me die alone here, be my guest.
    • One of Gothel's earlier lines was "I'm not getting any younger down here!"

They're very obviously meant to be Mother Gothel guilt-tripping Rapunzel. These are the sorts of things a manipulative, abusive person says to get someone else to stay. I'd say that overrules them being "hints" that are so vague they could indicate a huge variety of outcomes.

The second line also doesn't count as foreshadowing, as the audience — and Rapunzel — already know that Gothel ages quickly without Rapunzel's magic.

DoctorDetective Doctor Detective Since: Jun, 2012
Doctor Detective
Jun 30th 2012 at 11:33:20 PM •••

Why is it two words? It should be "Foreshadowing."

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Telcontar MOD Since: Feb, 2012
Jul 1st 2012 at 12:25:10 AM •••

It is. However, if the link that sent you here was typed as ForeShadowing rather than {{Foreshadowing}}, it'll display as two words on the page.

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DoctorDetective Since: Jun, 2012
SonicLover Since: Sep, 2009
Mar 1st 2012 at 2:28:45 PM •••

I can't help but wonder about what truly qualifies as foreshadowing. It's easy to see something as foreshadowing in hindsight, but when it's completely ordinary in any other context it comes off as odd.

For example, suppose a schoolchild chooses to pet a stray cat on the way home. That's completely ordinary behavior.

Now suppose that later The Reveal comes, and the schoolchild is actually a runaway prince from a distant kingdom, the royal flag of which has a cat on it. Instantly the treatment of the cat seems like foreshadowing, with people claiming the prince was paying respect to his kingdom in his own way.

I claim this is not foreshadowing. Why? Because nobody without foreknowledge of The Reveal has any reason to suspect anything. Like I said, completely ordinary behavior.

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pittsburghmuggle Since: Jan, 2010
Mar 1st 2012 at 5:25:43 PM •••

That would be Chekhov's Gun (Or cat in this case). As the page for Chekhov's Gun says:

Many people consider the phrase "Chekhov's gun" synonymous with foreshadowing (and they are related), but statements the author made about the Gun can be more properly interpreted as "do not include any unnecessary elements in a story." (Indeed, Chekhov himself first described the concept in reference to live theater productions, where placing a loaded gun on the set would be a clear safety hazard.) Like Foreshadowing, the object's importance often goes unnoticed by the audience, and becomes clear only in retrospect, or during a second viewing.

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SonicLover Since: Sep, 2009
Mar 9th 2012 at 7:42:22 AM •••

So then who's to say what's truly foreshadowing and what's just coincidence?

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LordGro Since: May, 2010
Mar 9th 2012 at 8:26:16 AM •••

The Law of Conservation of Detail.

Usually, things are in a work of fiction for a reason. There are no true "coincidences" in works of fiction, because what is in a work and what not is a decision of the author.

What the author intended is a different matter. I'd say your example isn't foreshadowing if the royal flag with the cat on it is never seen or mentioned before. But if the flag has been seen or described before and when there was mention of a "lost prince", then it could well be a foreshadowing.

Let's just say and leave it at that.
TheJackal Lurker Since: Dec, 2009
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Jun 17th 2010 at 10:36:01 AM •••

Uh, are you sure you meant to cutlist this? This is very definitely a valid trope, and it's been here long enough to get 852 wicks.

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AnonymousMcCartneyfan Since: Jan, 2001
Jun 17th 2010 at 12:00:58 PM •••

Yes, 852 wicks, and lots of examples!

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