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Jhimmibhob Since: Dec, 2010
Dec 18th 2021 at 5:29:53 PM •••

Some fellow named Naram-Sin commented out a few entries, including the one for Chesterton, with a "Please explain" comment. Don't want to be disobliging, but I'd say that one, at least, speaks for itself and ought to be re-added as is. Anyone have thoughts on the matter?

"She was the kind of dame they write similes about." —Pterodactyl Jones
Kordalia Since: Aug, 2015
Oct 14th 2015 at 7:48:40 AM •••

Can someone tell me in which period "The Mighty Thor and his fellow Asgardians were actually Sufficiently Advanced Aliens"?

luckykaa Since: Dec, 2011
Apr 30th 2013 at 10:23:03 AM •••

Shaggy Dog Story redirects here.

Is a shaggy dog story not better described by this trope in the other wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaggy_God_story ?

Whitecroc The Milkman Since: Dec, 2010
The Milkman
Apr 26th 2013 at 1:56:01 PM •••

Does this trope apply when a franchise or series de-emphasizes magic by simply not bringing it up again, or is that a different trope? I'm thinking of Mass Effect, which used mystical elements in the first game and then pretended they didn't exist in each subsequent instalment, aside from the odd piece of Lampshading.

This happened because Tim had made a mistake.
JesseMB27 Since: Feb, 2013
Mar 6th 2013 at 5:54:35 PM •••

Would it be appropriate to create a religion section? More specifically using the tale of "Bel and the Dragon" found in both the Catholic and Orthodox Canons of the Bible. And for that matter, even including efforts where the Catholic Church made efforts to refute and disprove things like witchcraft and superstitions (while also making note that it had also done some cases of hijacked by Jesus).

IanK Since: Nov, 2010
Sep 13th 2011 at 3:35:21 PM •••

I'm far from completely sure myself, but would people say Lost Girl falls under this trope? As a very brief precis, the main premise there is that the central character's one of the "Fae", an evolutionary offshoot of everyday humanity that encompasses lots of variants and include a whole bunch of traditional supernatural stereotypes. Werewolves, succubi, will-o-the-wisps, etc...

On the one hand it's thought-to-be-supernatural types being ascribed entirely to evolution, which would fit the trope, but on the other hand in-verse they were never supernatural which makes that fit dubious.

If not this trope, any thoughts on what that would fall under?

RandomChaos No Dragon Power Since: Oct, 2011
No Dragon Power
Apr 10th 2011 at 5:45:27 AM •••

So what if the Work is and allways will be Both?

With the power of a dragon I can make up for my inability to spill.
76.100.226.160 Since: Dec, 1969
Oct 8th 2010 at 10:41:33 AM •••

I'd love to add Wanted (the movie) to this trope, to me it was a horrible example of taking a Superhero story (which I'm considering Fantasy) and trying to make it more "realistic" for the movie but instead IMO they came up with a plot even more unbelievable and ridiculous than just adapting the comic plot would have been. Any one else agree with me on this one? There may be a better trope for this, so that's why I'm bringing it up in discussion first.

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joeyjojo Since: Jan, 2001
Dec 18th 2010 at 12:19:16 AM •••

Well I'm not sure that Wanted counts. The film is in a different continuity, so it would be more of a case of Low Low Fantasy. Also while the superhero bits were removed from the story he still had his absurd bullet bending powers and took his orders from a sewing machine so it isn't really fantasy or science fiction just poorly explained.

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joeyjojo Since: Jan, 2001
Dec 18th 2010 at 12:19:16 AM •••

Well I'm not sure that Wanted counts. The film is in a different continuity, so it would be more of a case of Low Low Fantasy. Also while the superhero bits were removed from the story he still had his absurd bullet bending powers and took his orders from a sewing machine so it isn't really fantasy or science fiction just poorly explained.

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joeyjojo Happy New Year! Since: Jan, 2001
Happy New Year!
Apr 19th 2010 at 9:51:14 AM •••

With the examples of Lost and Heroes (maybe Condemned i'll never play it), It was more than there was Weird Shit going on that was explained later on rather than anything explicit Magical being Re Coned. In both cases the Magical explanations were fan theories and never take as cannon in show.

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SomeGuy Since: Jan, 2001
Apr 19th 2010 at 12:40:01 PM •••

I'm inclined to agree. You can't do in the wizard if the wizard was never actually around in the first place. As a general rule weird stuff is assumed to be science fiction unless a character specifically invokes magic as a logical explanation.

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94.9.139.139 Since: Dec, 1969
May 28th 2010 at 3:29:22 PM •••

Lost is...complicated. It's both fantasy and sci-fi. That's all I have to say on the matter.

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