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Linking to a past Trope Repair Shop thread that dealt with this page: What is the trope here?, started by nrjxll on Mar 21st 2011 at 4:16:27 AM

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• Naturally, James T. Kirk in Star Trek The Original Series.
  • Despite making out with plenty of alien space babes, he definitely had sex with only two of them (Deela from "Wink of an Eye," Miramanee from "The Paradise Syndrome," though the latter was a human transplanted onto an an alien world), and definitely didn't have sex with most of them.
    • With Deela, it was while Kirk was under the influence of hyper-acceleration, giving a whole new definition to a "Quickie."
  • Taking off the women he kissed while under mind-control does a number to that figure as well.
  • Lampshaded in Star Trek VI when Kirk kisses the shape shifting Martia. During the subsequent attempted escape, Martia takes Kirk's shape, wherein Kirk says, "I can't believe I kissed you!" and "Kirk" replies, "Must have been your lifelong ambition."
    McCoy: "What is it with you, anyway?"
  • Subverted in "By Any Other Name", when the crew needs to expose the shape-shifting Aliens in human form to human emotions. Scotty drinks one under the table, McCoy gives one enough stimulants to drive him "up the walls," Spock uses logic, and Kirk, well, look at what trope entry this is. He contrives an excuse to kiss the female's neck, prompting her to say "Oh - you are trying to seduce me." The utterly dumbfounded look on Kirk's face is hilarious.
    • Most of his uses of this trope are...pragmatic, to say the least, rather than prompted by his own interest in getting it on with whoever-it-is. He actually has an approach to sexuality that hasn't been standard for men in centuries; back when women were supposed to be the insatiable ones with no self control, fictional guys seduced them into things all the time. More recently, a male seducer is generally primarily interested in the sex, but Kirk usually just sees smoochies as a higher level of trying to charm his way around women.
    • It's his primary tactic when manipulating any female not under his command. If, as Gene Rodenberry once said, "that happened to be the particular style of the twenty-third century," he'd probably use it all the time on guys, too. And Spock would be jealous and try to pretend he wasn't, because Vulcans are invulnerable to such childish emotions.
  • In this respect, Commander Will Riker of Star Trek The Next Generation is Kirk squared, seeming to have a definite preference for Rubber-Forehead Aliens. For example, in one episode he got it on with an alien who's asexual...
    • In the episode "First Contact," Riker has it turned around on him when he's trying to get out of an alien hospital and a nurse offers to help him escape, for a price: "I've always wanted to make love to an alien." (Cut to her helping him escape.)
      Nurse: Will I ever see you again?
      Riker: I'll call you the next time I pass through your star system.
      • Delicious irony in seeing the seductress played by Bebe Neuwirth, better known as Frasier's former wife, the ice queen Lilith
  • That time when Spock seduced the Romulan captain probably doesn't count because a) Romulans are more like another race than another species from Vulcans, b) they didn't get past the really erotic touch-telepath hand-make-out session and c) Kirk told him to do it. (It's still totally the most interesting case of this.)
    • However, the fact that Vulcans are touch-telepaths means that the few minutes hand stroking they did was probably more intimate than several DAYS of high-intensity sex for two humans.
  • For a change of pace, the main exponent of Boldly Coming on Star Trek Deep Space Nine was a woman (at present) and an alien herself: Jadzia Dax. Among her exploits: a dude from a planet that vanishes for years at a time, transparent-skulled Captain Boday... and apparently she has a thing for Morn. And that's just the men.
    • Deep Space Nine also has Dr. Bashir, who was often quite interested in alien physiology. Hell, even Jake did pretty well outside his species.
  • In the Star Trek Enterprise episode Unexpected, Trip dallies with a Xyrillian - and ends up pregnant. To be fair, though, he didn't know they were having sex.
  • Harry Kim gets it on with an alien chick ONE TIME and gets dressed down for it and infected (sort of) with a chemical in the process that makes him feel like he's totally in love (and has to suffer through withdraw symptoms and a broken heart when his superiors won't allow him to stay with her).