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Venatius Since: Jul, 2011
Aug 15th 2017 at 1:21:11 AM •••

Sheesh. From reading some of the topics below, it sounds like this page used to be even heavier on the negativity. That's kind of surprising. I was swinging by here to suggest a little delicate pruning might be called for, because the main page is full of downright incessant criticism and needling. It's not that I even necessarily disagree with a lot of it, but in a lot of cases it seems a bit tangential, sometimes spinning off into pointing out agendas/writing flaws/etc. that aren't even directly relevant to a specific trope entry. The one that finally inclined me to drop by here was the command that the reader "note" certain undertones of the final "where are they now" strip - which is pretty irrelevant to that particular trope. Including widely noted criticisms is well and good, and quite a few of them I do even agree with, but it ends up reading like most of the article was written by one person with one specific viewpoint on the comic that they really, really want you to see it from. I think it's mainly how certain very specific criticisms keep popping up again, and again, and again, across various trope entries that often aren't even directly related to those criticisms.

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Jabroniville Jabroniville Since: Jan, 2001
Jabroniville
Apr 17th 2016 at 1:27:48 AM •••

I edited some more of the YMMV page. It still read a bit too "Darth Wiki" at times, and I felt some things needed a lot more explaining. I kept in some of the snark (especially about Anthony), but re-worded some.

Noraneko Since: Jan, 2010
Jun 27th 2014 at 5:17:13 PM •••

Don't get me wrong; I read the strip and found the ultra-cynical character sheet page to be pretty accurate in its interpretation. But for those who aren't really familiar with it and consider it to be a normal slice of life strip, is the character sheet helpful? It reads like a Darth Wiki version of F Bo FW, ultra-edgy and full of dramatic and angsty character flaws that aren't overly pronounced in the strip.

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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Jun 28th 2014 at 2:10:06 AM •••

Yeah, the character sheet is fairly negative in tone. Methinks that it needs a more encompassing troping activity.

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Jabroniville Since: Jan, 2001
Jul 22nd 2015 at 10:58:56 PM •••

Yeah, I went in and edited some of it. It can be entertaining to poke fun, but it's pretty clearly out of line to post stuff like that in the actual normal Tropes pages.

Rebochan Since: Jan, 2001
Mar 28th 2010 at 1:50:24 PM •••

Hey, I hate this comic as much as anyone, but when did Therese get post-partum depression? I know she was a horribly written character that a lot of people feel sympathy for (myself included) but I'm drawing a blank on that one.

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MrJL Since: Aug, 2009
Dec 23rd 2013 at 10:45:31 AM •••

personally I just flat out didn't like her. And I don't see what so many people liked about her.

Jabroniville Jabroniville Since: Jan, 2001
Jabroniville
Nov 20th 2012 at 4:26:28 PM •••

Wow, I know people hate Anthony a lot, but it's not like he was the only character in the strip. As annoyed as I was by the whole thing, it's like half of these pages are just "WAH I identify with Elizabeth and so I don't like Anthony because he's boring and so I'll use TV Tropes as a venting tool!"

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Rebochan Since: Jan, 2001
Feb 6th 2013 at 11:45:38 PM •••

Welcome to Ship-to-Ship Combat.

I'd also note a good chunk of this page was written during the closing days of the strip and that's when the Anthony hate was really running high.

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