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Peteman Since: Jan, 2001
Jun 27th 2015 at 3:53:52 PM •••

Would this be accurate?

  • Adaptational Villainy: In the old Legends EU, Barriss Offee was a loyal Jedi Padawan and healer who graduated into a Knight (and even gained a Padawan of her own) and continued fighting for the Republic till her death on Felucia during Order 66. This made The Reveal of her being the Jedi who bombed the Jedi Temple and framed Ahsoka all the more shocking.

By Star Wars canon policy, I would think that it's the Legends stuff that's the Adaptational Heroism as opposed to the other way around.

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Werebazs Since: Sep, 2011
Jun 27th 2015 at 4:29:19 PM •••

It's a Retcon, and I think it should be listed as such if it's really necessary to list it (which I think it's not), because it's definitely not an adaptation issue. Adaptation happens when something is lifted from a source material into a new media, such as the Slaves of Republic arc was adapted from the story of the earlier comicsbook version. While I can't really judge how much was Barriss' personality based upon the EU-version, she was a background character in Ep2, and as such she wasn't lifted from the EU.

Of course the whole reboot/alternate continuity thing makes it even murkier, which is why I think it's not something to list here at all. In the currently canon continuity none of the Legends stuff happened so her turning into a villain is not a retcon, and as per above it's not an adaptation issue either. If anywhere, it belongs more to the Legends character page, because that's the continuity that's been rewritten, that's where this is a relevant info. However this is just my opinion.

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Peteman Since: Jan, 2001
Jun 27th 2015 at 4:42:43 PM •••

I would kind of argue that Bariss' lack of a Faceā€“Heel Turn in Legends would be more Overtook the Manga and Adaptational Heroism.

Werebazs Since: Sep, 2011
Jun 28th 2015 at 2:09:27 AM •••

No. TCW is not an adaptation of the EU, and the Legends EU isn't an adaptation of TCW either. When the two shared a continuity, it was a Retcon, due to TCW's status as a higher level of canon, and as far as the Legends continuity is concerned it's still a retcon (like the movies TCW is part of both continuities), however as far as the currently canon continuity is concerned, it's simply a difference between two Alternate Continuities.

It's also absolutely not Overtook the Manga. Over Took The Manga is a Manga/Anime trope, and is about the anime adaptation running out of source material (manga chapters) to adapt to screen, due to pacing differences between the two different media. TCW was largely it's own thing, that while was influenced by the EU, it never was about straightly and directly adapting the EU to screen.

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Shadao Since: Jan, 2013
Sep 23rd 2015 at 1:46:25 PM •••

It has to be addressed in some way, like her demise on Felucia in Legends. Especially if the speculations of the female Inquisitor from Season 2 of Rebels are proven to be true.

As for Barriss Offee's personality, while she does appear in the movies first, her actual character and personality was not defined in the film itself except the EU books back in the day. All I know is that apparently in the Medstar duology is that she was exposed to a drug that nearly brought her to the Dark Side, only to resist at the very last moment, thus earning her the rank of Jedi Knight. And that later, she got herself a Padawan named Zonder by Revenge of Sith. And in the Death Star novel, a worker there remembers Barriss as a good Jedi he idolize and wonders why would the Empire execute her and her fellow Jedi during Order 66 or something like that.

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Werebazs Since: Sep, 2011
Sep 24th 2015 at 12:21:07 AM •••

That stuff belongs on the Legends page. As far as this page is concerned, none of that happened.

Werebazs Since: Sep, 2011
Sep 28th 2015 at 2:28:13 AM •••

  • Adaptational Villainy: In the Star Wars Legends continuity, which first established Barriss, she never fell to the Dark Side and became a Jedi Knight, fighting in the Clone Wars until she was killed in Order 66.

As I've said before: TCW is not an adaptation of the EU, neither is Barriss adaptated from the EU. If the storyline was an adaptation of an EU storyline, where Barriss replaced another character for example, that would fit Adaptational Villainy, but not like this. Also TCW is not separate from Legends. Just like the live-action movies, TCW is part of both continuities, which does make Barriss's turn a retcon. However since this page is about the new canon, Barriss's Legends status is little more than an interesting bit of trivia, that irrelevant to this page, because none of what happened in Legends is part of the new canon. Therefore I think it should be listed on the Legends character page, because that's where this is relevant info.

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