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WarJay77 (Troper Knight)
23rd Mar, 2020 05:29:10 PM

It's absolutely not okay to have more than one trope per bullet. That's called Trope Slashing, and, well:

Do Not Add Multiple Tropes With A Slash/Adding Multiple Tropes With A Slash Is Bad: See what we did there? Don't do that either. It's lazy, causes duplicate examples to pop up when other tropers notice that a given trope is missing from its proper alphabetical position, not realizing it's slashed with another trope, creates confusion when there are multiple examples (which examples apply to which trope?), and overall just looks bad. If two or more tropes apply to a contextual description, put each trope separately in its correct place.

So yeah, they need to both have their own entries.

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MacronNotes (Captain)
23rd Mar, 2020 05:32:52 PM

Oh thanks. Since I found them to be unhelpful at best but couldn't find the administrivia article that talked about it

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WarJay77 (Troper Knight)
23rd Mar, 2020 05:34:16 PM

^ It's under How to Write an Example. Making a separate page might be useful, though...

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Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
23rd Mar, 2020 06:55:29 PM

With Slashed tropes, I usually give both of them entries that immediately say "Occurs in tandem with [other trope]".

Edited by Malady Disambig Needed: Help with those issues! tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13324299140A37493800&page=24#comment-576
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
23rd Mar, 2020 08:33:26 PM

Unless you add other context, though, ^ is an issue in itself. Per Zero-Context Example: "Examples should not point to other examples for context. They should stand on their own."

Octoya Since: Jul, 2014
23rd Mar, 2020 10:52:47 PM

Not to mention that trope pages can get edited all the time and the trope that one entry is pointing to might get cut, changed, or taken off the page if someone realizes it doesn't actually fit, and the reader ends up getting confused wondering what other context they've just missed out on. Imo it's just as bad an idea.

GastonRabbit MOD (General of TV Troops)
24th Mar, 2020 07:15:18 AM

"See [other trope]" is Word Cruft and should be avoided as well, even if the example otherwise has context.

  • Positional comparatives: "Similarly," "Like the example above," "Unlike the previous example," "Speaking of [X]," "See [other trope]," etc. Tropes may be renamed; articles may be folderized or resorted; additional examples may be added between two adjacent ones; examples may be deleted. Even worse is when this type of referencing is used in place of a proper description. Avoid examples that reference other examples. If you're comparing two examples within a particular trope, consider rewriting them as a single example, or just don't compare them in the first place.

Edited by GastonRabbit Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.
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