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crazysamaritan MOD Since: Apr, 2010
27th Jan, 2019 06:28:02 PM

There Is No Such Thing as Notability: according to this policy, any work (songs, novels, single-medium franchises...) may have a page created, assuming it has a reasonable description and at least three tropes. There is no requirement that the works must avert No Plot? No Problem! by having a plot. Albums tend to be a collection of songs, but rarely including a Framing Device. In other words, albums can have work pages.

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Playing_with_boy Since: Jun, 2018
27th Jan, 2019 06:55:05 PM

Oh. Well, Tropers/crazysamaritan, I see your point.

GastonRabbit MOD (General of TV Troops)
27th Jan, 2019 10:06:18 PM

Albums don't have to tell a story to have a separate page from the artist. TV Tropes has plenty of other pages for albums that aren't Concept Albums. The Beatles and David Bowie come to mind as other artists with pages for albums that aren't concept albums.

Edited by GastonRabbit Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.
jamespolk Since: Aug, 2012
28th Jan, 2019 06:17:23 AM

Making pages for albums only makes sense as a way of avoiding putting all an artist's tropes on one page.

crazysamaritan MOD Since: Apr, 2010
28th Jan, 2019 07:56:47 AM

Sure, although as I implied, not all albums are for a single artist's work.

Edited by crazysamaritan Link to TRS threads in project mode here.
Fighteer MOD (Time Abyss)
28th Jan, 2019 12:45:11 PM

While there is no literal rule against creating discrete articles for albums (or even songs), bear in mind that there should be enough unique content to make a quality article. By "unique", I mean tropes found specifically on that album and not broadly across the artist's body of work. "Concept" albums often feature narrative content and are ideal for their own work articles, but regular albums are rarely distinct enough for this to make sense, and individual songs even less so.

Unless the primary article for the artist is so large that it would merit a hard-split, I see no reason to make separate album articles except for the cases noted above, any more than you'd make individual work articles for chapters of a book.

The other reason not to go crazy with individual articles is title collision. Unlike with books and films and such, there is generally no proscription in the music world about reusing titles, and this could make things rather nuts on the wiki in terms of disambiguation. If our "2.0" concept ever gets any development traction, we might be able to revisit this idea.

Edited by Fighteer "It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Unsung Since: Jun, 2016
28th Jan, 2019 07:42:06 PM

The main Weird Al page is pretty extensive, and the trope lists on each album page are quite long as well. As long as the tropes can be found and someone wants to list them, I don't think the medium of the work really matters.

Playing_with_boy Since: Jun, 2018
31st Jan, 2019 03:04:04 PM

Well, in literally every Weird Al album that has a polka medley, there is a list of songs within said polka medley. Should I move 'em to Weird Al's main page.

jamespolk Since: Aug, 2012
31st Jan, 2019 03:24:50 PM

^If there's a page for an album the tropes on that album should stay there.

DragonQuestZ Since: Jan, 2001
1st Feb, 2019 04:49:33 AM

The question was about tropes for multiple albums, which should be on Al's own page as a creator trope in general.

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