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Amonimus (Sergeant)
27th Mar, 2024 02:51:42 PM

I've noticed two days ago the search cache (or what system this uses) seem to have been reset (on Google's side?) and it just couldn't find articles, instead showing olf forum posts and live blogs. Today the search seem to be relatively fine, so maybe it had to re-index the results. Getting own search to work properly would help with issues if these are by Google.

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WarJay77 (Troper Knight)
28th Mar, 2024 09:43:26 AM

This is about forum search though, which seems like an entirely different process.

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Amonimus (Sergeant)
28th Mar, 2024 09:48:58 AM

^ It says "old search". The forum search uses the New Search exclusively.

Still noticeable. For example, VisualNovel.Umineko When They Cry is one of popular pages. Out of these search results, only 2 of 10 results are actual wiki articles, neither of which is the work page. It used to be more article-focused a week ago.

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kory MOD (The New Guy)
28th Mar, 2024 10:04:56 AM

The search uses googles API and i think something must have changed with their page indexing if its showing forum results over article pages.

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Discar Since: Jun, 2009
29th Mar, 2024 06:27:49 AM

Is there any way to fix that on our end?

I suppose a crude patch would be to pin the first post of a forum thread, edited to have some relevant links at the top. Sort of like what TRS does.

Amonimus (Sergeant)
29th Mar, 2024 06:32:28 AM

Since it depends on Google, the only options are

  • provide a sitemap feature that lets search bots to prioritize some content over other
  • finish the new search and run over Elasticsearch without Google
  • wait an indefinite time until Google figures out which pages are more requested

I don't understand how the pin option would work

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Discar Since: Jun, 2009
29th Mar, 2024 05:36:36 PM

It was an old and probably stupid idea I had, that I thought might work here. Since we can pin the first post, if we edit the first post to have a link to any relevant pages for the thread (and put the original first post under the line, so it's not like we're erasing it), then if people land on the forum thread they can find any trope pages they might want from there. Save a little bit of clicking and searching. Order of the Stick, for example, has a link to the rules thread.

Originally, this went nowhere because it seemed like a lot of extra effort for no real benefit. This situation just made me think of it again. Probably still not worth it, but eh.

kory MOD (The New Guy)
9th Apr, 2024 02:30:17 PM

I just excluded the forums from the main search. It should also not search through queries, TLP, discussions or reviews right?

After i fix the main search ill finally fix the forum search as well so it doesnt only search for one single keyword at a time

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Amonimus (Sergeant)
10th Apr, 2024 06:42:15 AM

I think so, the search would be for "real pages" only, which reviews and liveblogs are not, until the internal search can get some filters.

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kory MOD (The New Guy)
10th Apr, 2024 10:12:04 AM

Okay i also removed Discussions, TLP, Reviews, liveblogs and queries from the main search.

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