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STARCRUSHER99 The Moron (Captain)

The Moron

2nd Feb, 2024 08:19:57 PM

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Report Troper Pt. 2

Basically, a previous ATT got really long, so it was suggested that someone re-consolidate the information into a new report. So here I am, and I would like to report Mr-ex777 for concerns with their edits. I'll include citations from the previous thread.

Trigger warning: The first bullet points repeatedly refer to rape and link to edits that discuss it in a fairly detailed manner. If you'd like to read anyway, skip to the second first-level bullet point.

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They really seem insistent on inserting rape into their edits for no real reason. This first was noticed when he inserted hypothetical "brutal rape" into a recent discussion so many times that multiple people were begging him to stop, but it happens in edits too.
- It particularly happened on the page for SoYouWantTo.Write A Complete Monster (more on that later). Among other examples, Ex edited the page to add references to rape, often with no provocation, here, here (an entire paragraph this time, continuing to repeat the "brutally raped" verbiage), here, here, here, and here. I know we're dealing with the Complete Monster trope and rape comes up there a lot, but this is a genuinely distressing amount of focus on that particular crime on that page.
- On NightmareFuel.Criminal Minds, he tweaked his own entry just to add more references of rape and torture to it. He added an entire paragraph about a rapist from the show and his actions here as well - ditto this (which he felt the need to add more detail to here), and this (which was later tweaked to add in more rape to an already rape-filled entry here). In a vacuum, it's nothing considering the show, but considering how much he fixated on it in discussion and how the rapists (and the occasional other CM) are the only entries he seems to edit, it's really noticeable.
- EDIT: I'm just gonna put this one on a separate bullet, but here he is again altering one of his previous entries to repeatedly reference rape, even though it already referred to it.
Ex serial tweaks constantly. He once edited the SYWT page at least 23 times in a single day, usually only changing a single word, but I'm not the only one who noticed he seems to do it to every page he edits. Edit history for reference.
This was a one-off among everything else, but he randomly added the entire country of Cambodia to Overshadowed by Controversy. This ended up causing confusion when Siegfried 1337 tried to ask if it should be allowed and it instead came off like he had added it to the page.
He keeps adding examples to Sandbox.Former Complete Monsters before the discussion has anywhere near concluded, requiring him to go back in and fix it if the discussion changes course. The most notable times of this rushed editing were Kor Phaeron (where he added the entry before the cut was actually finalized, created a "Tabletop" folder for it without moving the other tabletop examples to it, added with natter about how vile he is and with grammar mishaps that had to be tweaked several times, and then later added more natter to alongside a typo) and Cinder Fall (again, the discussion had literally just started - the cleanup thread hadn't even reached a new page yet, much less reached a consensus - but he also didn't italicize the show title, add a colon after the show's title, or give more than a barebones cut reason).
- He did the same thing to the SYWT page - within an hour of Cinder being brought up for cut, he adjusted the page to list fanfic versions of her as Adaptational Villainy (which is not at all accurate in the first place - just because she's not a CM anymore doesn't mean that adaptations where she is have to make her more villainous).
- Update: He recently edited an entry seemingly just to reference how vile the character is despite that being unrelated to his cutting.
Additionally, when he added Echidna's examples to Former Complete Monsters, he felt the need to add in a dig about how Echidna had a few examples not make it through the voting process. May not be related to anything else but it feels like a needlessly mean spirited jab for no real reason.
Last but not least, he's basically turned the entirety of SoYouWantTo.Write A Complete Monster into a natter and cruft-filled dumpster fire. It's filled with walls of text, "examples" that either rely on Fan Myopia or are so detailed that they derail the entire page and, when you look in the history, countless tweaks of single words or small phrases, often one after the other in a short period of time (as previously mentioned, at least one of them was 23 times in 24 hours). Another user checked and, out of the 64 pages of edit history, Ex had 40 of them, with the furthest of his edits only being August of 2022^note. The previous ATT thread has basically moved on to that page being the primary concern because reversion isn't really possible (no matter the reversion point, "clean" edits would get hit in the crossfire) but the page is such a mess that no one knows where to start.

Since the previous ATT got really long and slightly derailed, I wanted to bring the focus back to the original problem. Basically, Ex has several editing red flags and issues, and I think several people would like to see if there's a way to address them.

Edited by STARCRUSHER99

eagle108 (Not-So-Newbie)

2nd Feb, 2024 08:28:22 PM

The aforementioned previous ATT thread about Mr-ex777.

Agentofchaos Since: Dec, 2021

2nd Feb, 2024 10:25:59 PM

Yeah, I think it's genuinely concerning how much they go on about rape at any possible opportunity, it's like they can't wait to talk about rape, and that's before making the SYWT page practically incomprehensible.

I think we might need to restart the SYWT page from scratch at this point, manually reverting all of Ex's edits, (which make up almost 2/3's of all of the page's edits) would be almost impossible and a system revert would take most of the reasonable stuff with it

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BoltDMC Since: May, 2020

3rd Feb, 2024 02:15:35 AM

Agreed, that’s a significant litany of problematic behavior and wonkiness, and it’s going to take a lot of work to fix.

Edited by BoltDMC

Libraryseraph (Five Year Plan)

3rd Feb, 2024 06:06:33 AM

Yeah, I think we should probably move the SoYouWantTo.Write A Complete Monster discussion to the So You Want To ltp thread, but it would be nice to get some official eyes on ex specifically

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43110 (Striking Back)

3rd Feb, 2024 08:58:59 AM

On a related note, they're continuing to be quite obstinate—an ongoing issue with them—on the cleanup thread at the moment with these bloating problems being brought up to them.

Willbyr MOD (Y2K)

4th Feb, 2024 12:02:51 PM

They're suspended.

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