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megagutsman (Seven Years' War)
7th Jan, 2024 01:52:13 PM

Sorry to say, but I have seen Lunarsand's opinion about Kokichi making its way around the fandom, so they aren't alone in thinking any of this.

Now, I want to ask something: Have you contacted them through PM yet?.

commentspaee Since: May, 2023
7th Jan, 2024 01:55:49 PM

I know they won't listen to me to tone it down, so basically didn't bother with that. I would have either been ignored or dismissed.

Denial is a weakness. A WEAKNESS.
WarJay77 (Troper Knight)
7th Jan, 2024 02:03:34 PM

I think this may just be Sayaka. Their last sock also deleted the Jerkass Woobie example. Others may want to look deeper into it, but I'm just calling what I see.

Edit: Wait, they've been editing for ages now. Never mind, I don't think it's them.

On that note though, it helps in these situations to point to specific examples. I'm just sort of hopping their edits right now. And sending notifiers is sort of required here, even if it goes nowehere.

Edited by WarJay77 Current Project: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
commentspaee Since: May, 2023
7th Jan, 2024 02:06:53 PM

Explains a lot. "Sayaka" is pretty much the only one around here who forces negative views on Kokichi or Miu. And Yomi Hellsmile (though everyone hates that guy). As far as I know. Guess they're making an effort to change the style this time. Well, whatever.

... However, considering it might not be...

Edited by commentspaee Denial is a weakness. A WEAKNESS.
commentspaee Since: May, 2023
7th Jan, 2024 02:22:27 PM

Even if it might not be that evader, it's still someone forcing obviously-biased views (that everyone has commonly expressed) and complaining about a character they don't like. While also making their subjective views out as factual even though it's an interpretation.

Denial is a weakness. A WEAKNESS.
Arctimon Since: Nov, 2009
7th Jan, 2024 02:34:13 PM

I know that sending a PM may not result in anything, but at the very least you can say you reached out to them if the situation gets worse.

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Amonimus (Sergeant)
7th Jan, 2024 03:09:28 PM

As mentioned, it's best to bring up specific examples and why they are inaccurate. The common trend I see is removing mentions of Kokichi's regret regarding events of Chapter 4, which is ambiguous on purpose, but still implied to be true, and removals lack edit reasons.

It's not appropriate to assume ban evasion just because more than one person shared this opinion.

Still, calling fans deluded on an interpretation is an extreme red flag on its own.

Edited by Amonimus TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
commentspaee Since: May, 2023
7th Jan, 2024 03:23:27 PM

2024 issues for a 2017 game. ...I'll deal with this when I know how to articulate it. Not how I wanted to begin all this. Oh, well...

Denial is a weakness. A WEAKNESS.
Amonimus (Sergeant)
7th Jan, 2024 03:30:39 PM

If you don't know what to say, you can just send notifiers, for lack of edit reason, for complaining, and a PM link here to argue.

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WarJay77 (Troper Knight)
7th Jan, 2024 03:34:03 PM

No, I know. I was just so used to Sayaka socks being caught through repeating the same actions ad nauseum so I jumped to conclusions. I wouldn't have said anything otherwise.

But yeah, you can just send a notifier. Doesn't need to be customized

Edited by WarJay77 Current Project: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
commentspaee Since: May, 2023
19th Jan, 2024 04:34:38 AM

...Didn't listen to me, still deleting things that don't fit their perspective.

Denial is a weakness. A WEAKNESS.
commentspaee Since: May, 2023
19th Jan, 2024 04:36:37 AM

INCLUDING the thing that I wrote that states Kokichi is supposed to be based on subjective interpretation... because, you know, he's a LIAR. We don't know what is and isn't true, that's the POINT, but even THAT was deleted. Not fair to any capacity.

Denial is a weakness. A WEAKNESS.
Amonimus (Sergeant)
19th Jan, 2024 04:55:57 AM

Since they keep removing subjective examples without edit reasons regarding the single topic despite being asked to pause, it's worth moderator's opinion at this rate.

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commentspaee Since: May, 2023
24th Jan, 2024 11:43:36 AM

...There was no intervention.

Denial is a weakness. A WEAKNESS.
Willbyr MOD (Y2K)
24th Jan, 2024 05:44:29 PM

They've been suspended.

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