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sudrictoon Since: Feb, 2021
11th Oct, 2023 11:28:01 AM

From what I understand, GLDH was for "X is MORE popular overseas" but it decayed into "X is popular overseas." As for this specific entry, I don't think it qualifies as an example. MLP as a whole is not very popular in Japan - not that they hate it, but they already have their own cutesy girly franchises like Sanrio, Precure, Jewelpet, Love Live, Bandori, PriPara, etc. In Japan, FIM seems to be a cult classic at best, given how short-lived the dub was. It's definitely not as popular there as other western toons like Wacky Races.

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Ferot_Dreadnaught Since: Mar, 2015
11th Oct, 2023 12:57:14 PM

So cut the examples that don't explain how more popular than at home?

Also, this:

  • As it turns out, this trope actually applies to the Japanese dub itself. It may have gotten crowded out in Japan, but it garnered a LOT of attention by anime-loving bronies and anime fans in general everywhere else in the world due to the massive amount of Woolseyisms bringing the show in line with established Japanese media tropes. Equestria Daily regularly reported on new episodes of the dub being released despite its limited success in its country.

Would the Japanese dub count in light of failing at home but getting such attention and backlash for its cancelation abroad?

AegisP Since: Oct, 2014
11th Oct, 2023 04:35:07 PM

I think the Japanese dub does count. Fans loved it but Fi M itself was seen as nothing special by Japanese audiences.

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Reymma Since: Feb, 2015
11th Oct, 2023 05:46:20 PM

Wouldn't it be more of a Cult Classic, since only a small portion of the fanbase is passionate about it?

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AegisP Since: Oct, 2014
11th Oct, 2023 07:25:52 PM

I dont think that trope covers that but I agree that it just isnt an example of anything then.

Also we have an actual thread on this trope and its hardly ever used. We should use it.

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16835368600A14898200&page=1

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troper101 Since: Dec, 2010
12th Oct, 2023 12:27:58 AM

This example seems pretty poorly written and contradicts itself, because a trope can't be both "played straight and averted". GLDH doesn't seem to apply at all here; MLP has never really been popular in Japan, and the movie was released Direct to Video there because of it. I think it should just be removed.

Ferot_Dreadnaught Since: Mar, 2015
12th Oct, 2023 08:18:51 AM

Will remove it.

Should any examples not about being more popular abroad also be removed? (Also asked GLDH cleanup.

Kuruni (Long Runner)
12th Oct, 2023 08:37:34 AM

Regardless of being misuse or not, I cut down the first bullet to just "In Japan:" because...

1. It's YMMV and can't be played with.

2. How can something "Both played straight and averted"? Played straight mean using trope in the basic way while avert mean a completely absence of the trope. Seriously, I think I saw "avert" being misused more than subvert lately.

Edited by Kuruni
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