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AegisP Since: Oct, 2014
5th Jun, 2023 09:48:06 AM

I dont know either. It's truly Egregious...lol.

But seriously you should show us the examples you want to remove first. We dont know if they are ZCE.

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Amonimus (Sergeant)
5th Jun, 2023 09:51:53 AM

Because earlier in the day potholing to words even if they're not examples was common, and "very bad" is very common.

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Bubblepig (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded)
5th Jun, 2023 09:52:04 AM

^^Take a look at Historical Villain Upgrade example from Oda Nobunaga's folder at Sengoku Basara Oda Clan.

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Amonimus (Sergeant)
5th Jun, 2023 09:58:04 AM

That's a ZCE alright as it doesn't explain how the trope occurs and can be hidden on-sight. Along with many others at Characters.Sengoku Basara Oda Clan.

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AegisP Since: Oct, 2014
5th Jun, 2023 09:58:21 AM

Oh that certainly is a ZCE.

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Vilui Since: May, 2009
5th Jun, 2023 11:08:38 AM

It commits three faults: ZCE, writing as if using certain tropes was automatically bad, and trying to shill an example as being particularly bad, when we shouldn't care how it compares to other examples.

wingedcatgirl MOD (Holding A Herring)
5th Jun, 2023 11:10:10 AM

Phrases like "a particularly egregious example" were very common in the earliest days of the wiki, before ideas like "Tropes Are Tools" or "saying the example is an example doesn't tell anyone anything" had really sunk in. Another thing common in the early days of the wiki was people making funsies pages on unilateral whims in Main/, because that namespace hadn't been locked down like it is today — Egregious as a page initially came from someone noticing the unusual frequency of this word and deciding to make a joke about it. And then people wicked to it because it was there.

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Morgenthaler Since: Feb, 2016
5th Jun, 2023 05:11:31 PM

It's also an Inherently Funny Word.

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ArthurEld Since: May, 2014
5th Jun, 2023 05:35:11 PM

^I don't know about that. I think it's just people like to use hyperbole, as egregious means "shockingly, outrageously bad."

It's the same bad writing instinct that leads to natter like "-cruelly- subverted" and "averted HARD" and "brutally used in show X." Especially in the early days, but still even now, people like to talk their own examples up, either because they're trying to push a work they like, or because it particularly affected them as viewers and they think that absolutely needs to be conveyed.

There should honestly be a bit about it on pages that describe how to write a good example, and how not to.

NoUsername Since: May, 2012
5th Jun, 2023 06:41:00 PM

yeah it's an old troper catchphrase basically. back when this site focused much more on complaining people latched onto Egregious because i think it's both inherently a fun word to say and because it makes you look smarter and makes your example look more valid

GastonRabbit MOD (General of TV Troops)
5th Jun, 2023 08:14:55 PM

This discussion has gotten too long for ATT and the question regarding why "egregious" is an in-joke has already been answered, so locking.

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