Nippon Ichi (Disgaea, Makai Kingdom, etc.)

Well, Disgaea 5 is officially out on Steam.

I like the little side stories in the DLC. It's like the writers actually remembered what the characters are like beyond flanderized jokes. And while I didn't play the original game with Priere this is the first cameo appearance of hers that confirmed she had a personality at some point. Literally every single other appearance was either silence or just SMASH STUFF.

I do wish she'd gotten more voice clips than "Hrmmm" and "You're weak!" but yeah, the existence of the side-stories is nice.

Until proven otherwise I am going to maintain a firm conviction that Zeroken is Fenrich. Somehow. Even though this is set thousands of years before the first Disgaea, which is centuries before Disgaea 4 and Fenrich is only like two thousand.

Also, random thing, but one of the unstable netherworlds I saw indicated that angels do live outside Celestia in significant numbers. I was wondering why there seemed to be so few of them relative to demons but I guess it's just that they only have one home world.

Man, I thought Seraphina was basically okay but for her to even be considering her father's offer is making her really unsympathetic. And man her character development so far this game has been basically nonexistent.

Anyway, I'm surprised to find myself actually liking Killia more than most of the party members apart from Christo and maybe Usalia. His only sane man thing isn't bad at all.

The big guy does a little developing in the background, but to me it feels like they crammed 80% of every character's arc into, like, two chapters towards the back end of the game.

Killia and Christo develop throughout the story. Red Magnus honestly doesn't feel like he's changed at all, the story just said he did. But he was basically fine already so whatever. Usalia and Zero had very self contained little character arcs. Seraphina just seems like the same person for thirteen chapters and then considers selling out the team so she doesn't have to admit she's poor. I don't hate her, but she seems like she's behaving the same before and after her little arc and unlike Red she wasn't a very good person to start with.

Well, 'sfine. The game is really damn long but otherwise has been pretty solid and there isn't anyone as annoying as Raspberyl or Fenrich.

I think that for Red Magnus, they didn't give us enough of a window into what he was like before, you know? Like when we first meet him, he's already lost the ability to do the terrible things that he's apparently outgrown.

We learn from his former followers that he was a useless bully who thought he was in charge because he was the biggest and didn't care about actually running his netherworld or seeing to the needs of his citizens, but that's different from seeing it. Fighting to protect the turncoats rather than taking his rage out on them was supposed to be his big moment where he proved he'd changed. However, since we don't get to see him abusing them when he was properly their overlord, it falls a little flat.

I didn't even get the feeling he was intending to be a tyrant but was just an idiot and no one bothered to stand up to him.

I get the feeling I'm not playing this game right. I jacked the difficulty up, got the DLC characters and any time I face Majorita I just climb on top of Zetta's tower and snipe at them until there are a reasonable number down there to deal with.

Oh, yeah, Red Magnus didn't mean to be a tyrant, but he was - it was just out of carelessness instead of malice.

Which makes it kind of hard to accept that he was so bad he needed to change or whatever.

Ahaha Dark Lieze has 1.6m HP and can reach the top platform area nope nope nope I don't think I can beat that on the 20 stars I've been playing at.

Ah whatever I just want to get to the post game. I'm dropping the difficulty down and steamrolling this.

Edited by Arha on Nov 6th 2018 at 3:55:59 AM

I think that's why they should have shown us Red Magnus's reign. If somebody is stomping you into the ground, it doesn't make things much better for you if it's just because they don't care that they're hurting you. If the Overlord razes your fields, you'll still starve even if he only wanted to wrestle a gnarly space dragon that happened to be there, and then left without helping you rebuild. (I pulled that example out of thin air, but that's the kind of behavior I thought he outgrew, which is why his epilogue shows him happily at work on rebuilding his netherworld.)

In fact, for some followers, carelessness might be worse, because it can make it harder to tell what commands have the threat of violence behind them.

Oh wow Void being a playable character is handled really poorly.

NIS America doing a survey, info here and here.

If anyone filled that out, what did you ask for?

Hate to necro this thread with an uncomfortable subject, but Vic Mignogna (the voice of Mao in Disgaea 3) is essentially getting blacklisted by everyone for his intolerable behavior towards women.

Which brings up the question: on the off-chance Disgaea 3 gets any form of continuation or remastering or whatever that requires new dialogue, who would take over as Mao?

I'm leaning towards Bryce Papenbrook based on his past experience voicing demons and nerds who happen to have an association with the supernatural and his constant team-ups with Johnny Yong Bosch (who voiced Almaz in Disgaea 3).

(Funnily enough, JYB voiced the big brotherly figure to Bryce's characters in Blue Exorcist and Blood Lad.)

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Feb 12th 2019 at 9:12:15 AM

He'd be a good choice, and he definitely has the attitude for Disgaea.

Indeed. I do wonder if Vic's blacklisting will extend to his previous voice work... If it does (incredibly unlikely), all of Mao's voiced lines would require rerecording.

I'm not sure what to think of the Vic Mignogna allegations. On the one hand, the accusations against him seems to go back really far. On the other hand, there are already documented cases of people admitting to making stuff up to make him look worse.

There are so many that it would have to be a giant conspiracy at this point. Even if, say, half of them were made up, he would still be a scumbag of the first order.

I very much doubt any voice actors who aren't like Hollywood celebrities get royalties for their old work.

Is there any point in using the Chara World in Disgaea 5 prior to the end-game grinding?

I swear I can't find any "basic" guides to team-building without hearing about how you need to reincarnate 5 times, you want to focus on getting Carnage Traphezedons Rank whatever, you need Legendary everything, go to the LOC.

Edited by Soble on Mar 30th 2019 at 10:17:51 AM

I've a few questions.

• For those that played Labyrinth of Refrain: Coven of Dusk, how is the game?
• For those with Disgaea 1 Complete, does it have any new content compared to the last time Ho D was ported to a Nintendo Platform?

Edited by MorningStar1337 on May 14th 2019 at 4:44:41 AM

Well, it seems like we have some pretty bad news: there are reports coming out that NIS cannot afford to pay their employees and are resorting to a Moving Strike Warrant (unable to get loans from banks, so selling shares on the cheap to get cash) as a last resort.

Edited by tclittle on May 17th 2019 at 1:09:56 PM