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Apr 28th 2016 at 12:38:25 PM

It's not like that is the only fanfic site that exists, nor is it inherently representative.

diyedas Relationship Status: Drift compatible
Apr 28th 2016 at 2:07:14 PM

Fanfiction.net has 1k, although I'm not sure how much is included in crossovers or anything.

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Apr 28th 2016 at 4:20:15 PM

Fanfics tend to thrive in extended universes, which Avatar does not have. I doubt there are many fanfics about movies without sequels.

Tuckerscreator from Traveling through the Multiverse Relationship Status: Drift compatible
Apr 28th 2016 at 5:09:50 PM

I know that Archive isn't representative of all fanfiction across the Internet. But measuring that is near-impossible and the comparison to other works within one site is still interesting.

Inception doesn't have a sequel and it has 7000 fanfics on Archive.

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diyedas Relationship Status: Drift compatible
Apr 28th 2016 at 8:19:34 PM

Apparently Inception has a huge yaoi following because 5,260 of those fics are about Arthur and Eames. (Joseph Gordon-Levitt and Tom Hardy) Oh fandoms.

edited 28th Apr '16 8:20:55 PM by diyedas

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Bocaj Funny, but not helpful from Here Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny, but not helpful
Apr 28th 2016 at 8:21:36 PM

Avatar's downfall apparently is that it didn't have dudes that were conducive to being shipped together I guess.

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diyedas Relationship Status: Drift compatible
Apr 28th 2016 at 8:39:27 PM

Not to mention the romance it did have was pretty cliche and bland.

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Bocaj Funny, but not helpful from Here Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny, but not helpful
Apr 28th 2016 at 8:39:56 PM

Jake should have left Neytiri in the end for deathwing.

That would have shaken things up.

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diyedas Relationship Status: Drift compatible
Apr 28th 2016 at 8:49:13 PM

[up]He was just as intimate with it as the girl.

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TheAirman from Congratulations! Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Apr 29th 2016 at 7:32:16 AM

Grace/Pandora OTP

edited 29th Apr '16 7:32:27 AM by TheAirman

PSN ID: FateSeraph Congratulations!
diyedas Relationship Status: Drift compatible
Apr 29th 2016 at 2:59:08 PM

[up]I ship it.

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Tuckerscreator from Traveling through the Multiverse Relationship Status: Drift compatible
May 12th 2016 at 5:05:33 PM

So I went around looking for what Stephen Lang has been up to since '09, and I came across this.

Gravitas Ventures has just acquired Beyond Glory, a feature film that tells the true stories of eight Medal of Honor heroes as performed by acclaimed actor Stephen Lang. [...] The film is a big-screen presentation of Lang's one-man shows which is, itself, an adaptation of Larry Smith's nonfiction book, also titled Beyond Glory.

Man, Avatar 2 through 4 are really going to miss Colonel Quaritch. Even cloning him like Lang once joked about doesn't seem like it'd be the same.

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diyedas Relationship Status: Drift compatible
May 12th 2016 at 10:21:16 PM

I have a friend that either was related to Stephen Lang, who's parents know Stephen Lang, or knew someone who looked like Stephen Lang. I can't remember which one it was.

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DeadlyAssassin Last of the Stellarians from Helsinki Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Last of the Stellarians
Apr 22nd 2017 at 1:51:24 PM

Necromancy time. Sequels got delayed again, with Avatar 2 arriving at December 2020.

Of course, at this point it's probably gonna be delayed even more.

Check out my fantasy-webcomic!
Tuckerscreator from Traveling through the Multiverse Relationship Status: Drift compatible
Apr 22nd 2017 at 2:20:32 PM

Maybe it'll be delayed long enough that he'll rebrand it as "nostalgia".

But this is the only Avatar sequel that deserves to exist.

(CW for brief use of r-word.)

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Feb 18th 2020 at 7:32:06 AM

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higherbrainpattern I am one with the Force and the Force is with me from Parts Unknown Relationship Status: Drift compatible
I am one with the Force and the Force is with me
Apr 22nd 2017 at 2:45:30 PM

[up][up] Lucasfilm's impact.

Minutes away but miles apart.
SantosLHalper The filidh that cam frae Skye from The Canterlot of the North
The filidh that cam frae Skye
Jul 10th 2018 at 3:04:42 PM

Sorry to bump, but recently it occurred to me that a lot of the anti-Avatar rhetoric sounds less like glorifying the strengths of humanity and more like the setup for a Futurama gag.

Zapp Brannigan: The conquest of Pandora was difficult indeed. I almost forgot which button dropped the thermonuclear bombs and which one dropped the neutron bombs until Kif here fetched me the ship's manual. In the eight seconds between him getting the manual and handing it to me, I also had an extremely arduous struggle with a packet of peanuts, which Kif then aided me in upon his previous task's completion. But it was all worth it for all that sweet, sweet metal of indeterminate use or value.

Edited by SantosLHalper on Jul 10th 2018 at 6:13:18 AM

Halper's Law: as the length of an online discussion of minority groups increases, the probability of "SJW" or variations being used = 1.
TargetmasterJoe Much more than meets the eye! from The City, USA Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
Much more than meets the eye!
Oct 29th 2018 at 4:30:32 PM

[up] I just read that as Billy West as Zapp. [lol][lol][lol]

Anyway, does anyone remember that SNL sketch where Ryan Gosling has a panic attack over the movie's usage of the papyrus font?

The logo got changed after all!

Hilarious in Hindsight, no?

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TargetmasterJoe Much more than meets the eye! from The City, USA Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
Much more than meets the eye!
Nov 1st 2019 at 12:03:03 PM

Bump.

Avatar will be available on Disney+ when it launches on November 12th!

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Nov 1st 2019 at 1:10:54 PM

[up] All I can think of is Jenny Nicholson's video about Pandora in Animal Kingdom, where she calls it (paraphrasing here) "The movie everyone kind of liked for the special effects and visuals, but promptly forgot about once it hit home video, presumably because it wasn't as fun to watch on a smaller screen in 2D."

Edited by megaeliz on Nov 1st 2019 at 4:14:07 AM

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands
Redmess
Feb 18th 2020 at 6:34:32 PM

Well, I finally got around to watching Avatar.

Is it me, or is the idea of people remotely controlling braindead Na'vi kinda creepy. They even move in the tubes without being connected, so there clearly is some life in them.

I don't know why the main character needed to be some novice in a wheelchair. It's not like we will be seeing him in that thing for long. I'm getting some major Inspirationally Disadvantaged vibes here. It's cheap pathos at the least. Especially with that comment at the beginning that he could totally be cured, but is too poor.

For someone with zero experience, he sure makes it look easy controlling that body that is twice as tall as himself. Not to mention being able to walk right away. And for a marine, he sure has trouble following orders.

Those alien wolves sure don't seem very smart, given how easily one lightly armed Na'vi just kicks their asses.

I was under the impression that the Na'vi didn't know about the whole Avatar thing, but apparently they do. Makes me wonder why they would trust this Avatar guy in the first place.

These aliens remind me a lot of Alien Planet, especially that first one that challenges Jake.

How is it that these futuristic people act like they've never met a native tribe before? Or talk like 19th century colonialists?

Flying mountains. Because of course. But hey, those waterfalls are pretty realistic, breaking up into mist at the bottom.

I don't really get the mindset of the Na'vi about Avatars. They know they are not real Na'vi, but at the same time they sort of treat them like they are, especially once Jake earns their trust, which is in just three months. I mean, it's a bit like bringing a Na'vi to earth and having them become a citizen after three months. Not even humans get to do that, and those are the same species.

Or to pick one as a mate, for that matter. Would that technically be bestiality?

Do the Na'vi understand that these Avatars are really humans in very advanced Na'vi suits? It's not really clear from the movie.

And then Jake is absent from his Avatar at just the wrong time. You'd think some Na'vi would have noticed these odd moments of complete unconsciousness by now.

That warrior is an asshole, sure, but he kind of has a point about these Avatars being fake Na'vi.

Really, the military branch of the operation discovers Jake's betrayal, and they're just leaving the science outpost unguarded so he can go right back in? I guess we wouldn't have plot happen otherwise, but still...

That is a BIG tree. I didn't expect them to succeed in destroying it, either.

And of course he becomes the Chosen One. Hey, its the same thing that happened in Dune! Join the natives, become the Chosen One, fight the colonizers. No prophecy here, but still.

The Na'vi seem to be pretty forgiving all of a sudden. Then again, he did fly in on the Chosen Steed.

It's a good thing that healing tree isn't picky about what biology to connect to.

The humans have killed their planet? A bit heavy handed, there. I guess this is some dystopian future, then. Well, at least it isn't Ferngully.

They're sending infantry against cavalry? That seems like a poor move, even when they have superior firepower. Why not shoot from the gunships, where you have the advantage?

And the same goes for those helicopters, really. Flying on sight alone, when you know the enemy has powerful flying creatures? Ones that are big enough to just toss a helicopter out of the sky? Yeah, that's a total massacre.

Wait, where did the Na'vi get machine guns? Oh, those must be from that one chopper. Wait, how do the Na'vi operate human-made guns? Their fingers probably wouldn't fit through the trigger hole.

And then it turns into a war movie, complete with burning horses. Man, that got dark fast.

And then it turns into Gaia's Revenge. It's a pretty cool fight scene, and it doesn't pull any punches. Great cinematography, too, it's not hard to follow the action.

It is good about planting Chekov's Guns as well.

Looks like General Hardass is really eager to get killed. And so, he does!

And it ends with the colonists getting deported (there really isn't another way to describe the scene, really), and... Jakes soul gets permanently transplanted into his Avatar by the Magical Tree. Or something like that. Cultural appropriation complete!

Man, this movie... the story sure is cliche and kind of racist, but I can't help but love it nonetheless. It was a great watch.

And it's going to have like five sequels. May Eywa help us all.

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands
Redmess
Feb 18th 2020 at 6:41:46 PM

I'm reading those alternate character interpretations on the YMMV page, and is it me, or is a lot of it just fan wank that is barely supported by the movie? Some of it has the distinct stink of racist argument about it.

Blueace Blue Reflection Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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Feb 18th 2020 at 6:44:32 PM

I think Sully is paraplegic to show another point on why the Na'vi form is so attractive to him, or something.

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands
Redmess
Feb 18th 2020 at 6:47:38 PM

I guess that works, though they don't really do much of anything with it in the end, so I still call it paraplegic pandering. grin

Though I guess it is a whole league better than making it into a sadsack movie about "overcoming one's handicap".

Tuckerscreator from Traveling through the Multiverse Relationship Status: Drift compatible
Feb 18th 2020 at 6:47:41 PM

The YMMV page was locked for... I want to say a few years, but it was probably less, because inevitably it attracted the ire of those who resent any criticism of America.

I don't know why the main character needed to be some novice in a wheelchair. It's not like we will be seeing him in that thing for long. I'm getting some major Inspirationally Disadvantaged vibes here. It's cheap pathos at the least. Especially with that comment at the beginning that he could totally be cured, but is too poor.

Because the story wanted him to feel more tempted to the Na'vi side largely because he gets to walk again in a Na'vi body. Which undermines the emphasis on him feeling morally obliged to their side.

Of course he'd defect if he got to marry a princess, get a super-body, fly on dragons, and lead a clan. Real life solidarity with Indigenous causes isn't so sexy, as the horror stories from protests against the DAPL and the Wall on Native land have demonstrated.

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