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Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#20726: Feb 19th 2019 at 9:32:44 AM

Maybe whatever plans he had were vetoed. It wouldn't be the first time he had to bend his story to fit the magazine's demands. We know Lisa Lisa was supposed to beat Kars in a straight fight, but that clearly didn't happen.

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#20727: Feb 19th 2019 at 9:51:12 AM

It's also possible that Araki was just a better writer at that point. IMO there's a pretty noticeable jump in characterization quality in Di U from SDC.

Edited by Draghinazzo on Feb 19th 2019 at 1:52:38 PM

Yumil Mad Archivist Since: Mar, 2016
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#20728: Feb 19th 2019 at 9:54:05 AM

Yeah Araki improves a lot on storytelling over the years so I wouldn't be surprised that's the main difference between hayato and runaway girl.

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KusaMigeru Interesting Person #928 from Kanda Island Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
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#20730: Feb 19th 2019 at 10:33:24 AM

I go with the "Araki just got better at writing" argument, rather than gender differences. We know he is much more open to female characters being more proactive, as Parts 6-onwards show pretty well.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#20731: Feb 19th 2019 at 10:39:46 AM

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Fair enough.

I do forget about part 6....though I found it odd that the one arc with a female main character (and a larger female roster in general) is the one where the heroes kinda sorta fail (something that only technically happened before with the first arc).

I mean, sure Emporio came through in the clutch but it's still weird.

Of course, at this point I have to acknowledge that I might be reading too much into it as well.

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Yumil Mad Archivist Since: Mar, 2016
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#20732: Feb 19th 2019 at 10:54:11 AM

Araki is a mixed bag at handling endings. The endings of the six first parts can be summed up as :

-bittersweet Diabolus ex Machina

-Litteral Deus ex Machina

-Ass Pull to even the odds. A cool one, but still one.

-Massive case of Idiot Ball from the gang to make the fight a one on one, admittedly a truly cool one.

-Eleventh hour Story-Breaker Power to surpass another, generally disliked even though I kinda like how over the top GER is.

-The Bad Guy Wins except not really.

Stone ocean doesn't seem that weird in the lot. haven't seen part 7 to comment on its ending.

Edited by Yumil on Feb 19th 2019 at 7:54:55 PM

"when you stare too long into the abyss, Xehanort takes advantage of the distraction to break into your house and steal all your shit."
KusaMigeru Interesting Person #928 from Kanda Island Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
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#20733: Feb 19th 2019 at 11:18:11 AM

Part 7 has a pretty Bittersweet Ending ( Gyro dies for pretty much nothing and Johnny loses the race, but regains his ability to walk, makes amends with his father and meets his future wife in the process), but Part 8 overrides it. [lol]

Edited by KusaMigeru on Feb 19th 2019 at 4:18:56 PM

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#20734: Feb 20th 2019 at 12:47:27 PM

Part 4 -Massive case of Idiot Ball from the gang to make the fight a one on one, admittedly a truly cool one.

Because I seem to recall that Kira had a game-breaking time ability that prevented the gang from finding him, and the moment they did Josuke, Okuyasu, Koichi, and Jotaro all contributed.

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Yumil Mad Archivist Since: Mar, 2016
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#20735: Feb 20th 2019 at 12:56:08 PM

nope. That ability was bypassed the second josuke engaged kira (and initially brought okuyasu along until he got benched because the hand used smartly negates killers queen's new powerup with straycat.) It's just that jotaro literally mistakes Josuke calling him from the other side of the street as the sound of the rain. They only contribute when kira starts literally running their way.

Edited by Yumil on Feb 20th 2019 at 12:56:44 PM

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SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#20737: Feb 20th 2019 at 6:16:09 PM

The only reason Kira succeeds is because his chief adversaries are a gaggle of morons.

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Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#20738: Feb 20th 2019 at 7:39:23 PM

I don't get why people get so bent out of shape over that episode, it's bizarre and disturbing but duh? That was the point.

It's unnecessary, exploitative, and frankly any amount of little girl butt is too much.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#20739: Feb 21st 2019 at 3:07:03 PM

I wasn't bothered by Forever but the objection others can have of him should be obvious.

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#20740: Feb 21st 2019 at 4:18:53 PM

I wonder if the next Giogio episode is going to end on (big spoils) Bruno getting Kakyoin'd. That would be such a nasty place for a cliffhanger.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
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#20741: Feb 21st 2019 at 4:21:10 PM

Anyone think they might animate the Fugo novels as an OVA?

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Lyendith Since: Mar, 2011
#20742: Feb 21st 2019 at 4:23:55 PM

They did animate the Rohan spin-off, so why not?

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#20743: Feb 21st 2019 at 4:25:31 PM

I hope so. I thought Purple Haze Feedback was really good. It's quite a bit longer than any of Rohan's solo adventures though, so I don't know how feasible it would be.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#20744: Feb 21st 2019 at 4:26:42 PM

Making it a multiple-OVA seiries could be a good way to tide the wait for Stone Ocean.

People are gonna want more Fugo & Purple Haze after all.

Edited by slimcoder on Feb 21st 2019 at 4:27:24 AM

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Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#20745: Feb 21st 2019 at 4:33:29 PM

The fact that Part 5 is extremely popular gives me hope that it could happen.

KusaMigeru Interesting Person #928 from Kanda Island Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
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#20746: Feb 21st 2019 at 4:53:23 PM

Wait a sec, aren't we gonna have The Clash/Talking Heads now?

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#20747: Feb 21st 2019 at 5:03:43 PM

Not just yet. We have the introduction of King Crimson first.

RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from Australia Since: Feb, 2015
#20748: Feb 21st 2019 at 5:29:57 PM

I actually get King Crimson pretty easily. You have a time of up to ten seconds to affect. Crimson can selectively undo whatever happened in that period, so if the two of you get in a Mutual Kill he can Ret-Gone his kill but keep your one. It's like editing software for videos, except with time.

King Crimson is definitely a case of Personality Powers. Diavolo is ultra-paranoid and tries to erase his past, his Stand can erase parts of time

Edited by RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 on Feb 22nd 2019 at 2:31:04 AM

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#20749: Feb 21st 2019 at 5:37:08 PM

I love it when Stands play up the Personality Powers aspect. Abbacchio and Fugo are also really good ones in this part.

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#20750: Feb 21st 2019 at 5:44:43 PM

The easiest way for me to understand KC was "lag in an online video game".


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