Kingdom Hearts

Apparently myshopify.com is currently unavailable. I was able to go back to the "Kingdom Hearts Storyboard Art" page just fine though? What's up with the website?

It might have just loaded a cached version for you.

Cached? What's that?

To put it simply, your computer (among others) stores the most recent version of a website that you viewed. When you revisit a website, what your computer is actually doing most of the time is loading the cached version and then comparing that to the information the server you're pinging is sending. If the data is unchanged, your computer simply loads the cached version. If the data is different, it updates it as needed. That's why websites you've been to (especially recently) tend to load much faster than new ones or ones you haven't been to in a long time.

The locally stored information is often referred to as "cookies", by the way, with the biggest differenced being that a cached version can be stored on an external server. The Internet Wayback Machine, for example, catalogs cached versions of various websites for public perusal. Google also does this, to an extent, and it usually offers you an option to view the cached version of websites.

Further reading.

Edited by Zelenal on Jul 4th 2018 at 4:16:59 AM

Interesting. So how would that be a problem for other computers? When Ultimatum replied to my comment saying "there's Nobody there", I thought that something went wrong with the link, but when I clicked on it, it took me to the page, so I thought that there was a problem on their end.

We can't view the catched version,we have to do it manually

I like how the ending transitions into L'Oscuritá dell'Ignoto.

Edited by rmctagg09 on Jul 4th 2018 at 6:32:09 AM

How do I make that possible?

Man, the new Smash looks great. Sounds a lot like Melee, though.

> How do I make that possible?

Take screenshots and host the images on imgur

The Ultimania says that MX's person was being reconstructed and revived in DDD in that last scene where Riku and YX fight.

Nomura literally says it's possible that Roxas had Ven's heart in his body.

The closest to that that I can see in the KHDDD ultimania interviews is it being said that it was Master Xehanort's power that allowed Young Xehanort to escape Mickey's Stop 4 spell. Which wouldn't contradict what I'm saying here, since the heart inside Terranort is the original heart of Master Xehanort.

It's possible, but not guaranteed. After all, we now know that our original idea of how Nobodies can regain or gain hearts was incomplete. Especially if that interview question was before KHDDD came out; he wouldn't want to spoil a major reveal ahead of time like that.

Edited by Enlong on Jul 4th 2018 at 10:47:58 AM

That statement seems like a temporary explanation, since IIRC it was made before the reveals in 3D. Ven probably influenced Roxas somehow, but it was probably just his appearance, and now that we know Nobodies can develop hearts over time, there’s no other justification needed for why Roxas could feel things.

Edited by SapphireBlue on Jul 5th 2018 at 12:35:46 PM

When was "original bodies now retain Nobody memories" stated? DDD?

Considering that was the first game to see a Nobody/Heartless merger happen outside of Sora and Kairi? I think so.

It could be inferred from KHII, since the org planned to get their hearts back, presumably keeping their memories of who they were in the process, as they did when they became Nobodies.

Edited by Enlong on Jul 5th 2018 at 12:22:22 PM

Next one's out.

x3 It would have to be KHII, since that game states that Nobodies fake their emotions based off of the memories of their previous lives.

Was it ever explained why Roxas didn't have memories?

Sora regained his original form too soon after becoming a Heartless for his memories to transfer over to his Nobody.

I always interpreted that line as a sort of racism against Nobodies. Suggesting that some group doesn't have emotions or can't think rationally is a classic dehumanizing tactic in racism.

But that is literally how the game universe works. Before they grow a new heart, they don't have the ability to feel emotions.

If it were just prejudice, I'd really like to know how the hell it even got started. How did Yen Sid arrive at these conclusions, why did he relay them to Sora and why does absolutely no one ever call him out on it?! Like, why is there not a single moment of anyone going, holy shit, Yen Sid is really full of shit! Why do we even listen to him? Why is there never a moment of Sora going, man, I was really being a dick to those Nobodies in KHII? I feel really bad now!

I mean, obviously we're not going to get that because Nomura did not at any point mean for Yen Sid to be depicted as a liar or a racist, and he's not going to start doing it now. He just wanted to retcon away the original concepts for the Nobodies, but he's unwilling to grapple with how Unintentionally Unsympathetic it makes various characters in KHII.

I always found the "racist" interpretation of the Nobodies in KHII incredibly daft. The Nobodies are not a "race". I mean, you're not only trying to apply real world social logic to a seriously outlandish fantasy concept — which, fine a lot of fantasy works do stuff like that — but you're also doing it selectively, conveniently only applying it to characters who have handsome faces, rad powers and a cool personality. Is the concept of Heartless or Unversed racist? What about the non-humanoid Nobodies? I never hear anybody suggesting that the characters are prejudiced against them.

Fact is, the idea of Nobodies growing hearts only became a thing because Nomura wanted to pander to fans who had leather-pantsed the main Orgy members so thoroughly that they were never going to accept them not having hearts. Only he's not really willing to grapple with the implications of this retcon — namely that it makes a lot of characters who we are supposed to find sympathetic into massive douchebags — so he just quietly sweeps their actions and dialogue under the rug, expecting us to just forget about it.

We do have Fantastic Racism, though. And its not so much the concept that is racist, as the reaction to them. Racism does not have to hinge on real world concepts like culture or skin colour, it is simply based on placing more value on one group over another based on real or perceived differences. You could base racism on wheter you peal an egg from the pointy or the flat side by depicting the other group as immoral, inhuman monsters.

Also, keep in mind that racism does not neccesarily involve actual different races. As I said, racism can be based on many not strictly racial things. Notice, for example, how racism against black people generally overlooks the very varied background of people.

I mean, if we're going to have an anology here it'd probably be more like ableism than racism. And I know that Fantastic Racism is a thing in fiction, but for it to have any meaning you have to be consistent about it. You can't just introduce fantasy racism as a rationale for retconning away properties of your fantasy concept without grappling with the implications of said racism whatsoever.

If you're going to say Yen Sid and Sora were just prejudiced; then actually include some consequences for it. Otherwise saying they're racist is just derailing their characters for the sake of smoothing over a lazy retcon.

Edited by DrDougsh on Jul 6th 2018 at 3:41:58 AM