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ShirowShirow Down with the Privileged🪓 from Land of maple syrup Since: Nov, 2009
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#5876: Mar 22nd 2019 at 11:57:26 PM

Agent 47's had more than seven. Lara Croft over a dozen. And don't get me started on Nintendo's properties.

I kinda feel like it's similar to Metal Gear in that they have an incredibly beloved character that they keep trying to get rid of for some stupid unknowable reason.

Edited by ShirowShirow on Mar 22nd 2019 at 2:57:46 PM

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#5877: Mar 23rd 2019 at 12:15:40 AM

Well in Metal Gear's case it worked because Snake's arc had run his course and the guy that replaced him had rescued himself from scrappydom in spades by the time he took up his mantle proper.

DMC already has that with Nero, and since any future games he stars in will be in the same genre, they don't even have to worry about making an unlockable Dante feel out of place.

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ShirowShirow Down with the Privileged🪓 from Land of maple syrup Since: Nov, 2009
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#5878: Mar 23rd 2019 at 12:26:52 AM

Yeah, like, if I sound negative about it I'm not criticizing Metal Gear for Raiden. More for Kojima's repeated attempts to Torch the Franchise and Run.

But it is narratively appropriate for Metal Gear to cycle its protagonist out. It's a game series about war and loss and inevitability. Devil May Cry is about a stylish devil hunter who has an in-built reason to never age and a bag of tricks deeper than the mariana trench.

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#5879: Mar 23rd 2019 at 12:34:28 AM

I’ve said this before but they could go the Yakuza route & have multiple playable characters with their own stories.

Hell from what I read, Kiryu Kazuma the seiries main protagonist was only playable in the final chapters of either 4 or 5.

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ShirowShirow Down with the Privileged🪓 from Land of maple syrup Since: Nov, 2009
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#5880: Mar 23rd 2019 at 12:40:28 AM

I've only puttered around the early Yakuza games (O, 1, 2) where Kiryu is the clear protag and Goro is in because of Popularity Power so I'm not sure how that differentiates from what we have now? 5 is clearly an ensemble piece.

Have I mentioned I love V? I don't think I've mentioned that I love V. I was slightly reprehensive about him going in but can I just say I love V.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
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#5881: Mar 23rd 2019 at 12:45:09 AM

Well 4 & 5 are ensemble pieces with 6 going back to just Kiryu. .

It’s just that since DMC introduced multiple playable characters with 5 having 3 each with their own missions, distinct character traits & play-styles, & role in the story it be bit hard to go back to just one character next game.

Ya kinda now want to keep the variety.

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ShirowShirow Down with the Privileged🪓 from Land of maple syrup Since: Nov, 2009
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#5882: Mar 23rd 2019 at 12:56:33 AM

There'd probably need to be several installments worth of content to set it up but an amazing climax to one of the games would be a returned Sparda, Dante, Vergil, Nero, and perhaps other members of the family like Lucia and Trish all charging into battle side-by-side and Devil Triggering at the same time to send an entire army of demons reeling in a giant Foe-Tossing Charge.

(Lady watches this above and turns to V, mentioning that they're the only two that can't fly. V looks at her expressionless before raising his hand and being carted off by Griffon. Lady then radios Nico and says she wants a Jet Pack.)

Edited by ShirowShirow on Mar 23rd 2019 at 4:04:27 AM

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#5883: Mar 23rd 2019 at 1:14:49 AM

Wait, how is V around when Vergil is there?tongue

Also, you could just give Lady a jet pack Nico invented for her.

ShirowShirow Down with the Privileged🪓 from Land of maple syrup Since: Nov, 2009
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#5884: Mar 23rd 2019 at 1:20:15 AM

Clearly the fruit of the netherworld warped reality allowing Urizen to resurrect as a separate entity, bringing V with him. V eventually changed his name to "Vitale", saying that the letter can stand for many things. This is the plot of the third DLC pack of Devil May Cry 7, which stars Dante's daughter Antonia "Toni" Redgrave.

Look, don't take V away from me. I really like V.

Edited by ShirowShirow on Mar 23rd 2019 at 4:21:00 AM

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#5885: Mar 23rd 2019 at 1:55:59 AM

We lose V, but get adult goth gf Patty in his place. Sounds like a fair trade.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
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#5886: Mar 23rd 2019 at 1:59:35 AM

Is she a major bible thumper?

Cause that’s a big deal.

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#5887: Mar 23rd 2019 at 2:06:56 AM

It's been like a decade and she's spent a fair amount of her time hanging out with a bunch of devil hunters that look fresh out of a metal band and is part of a family of occult-dealing alchemists. She's more than likely been hitting the books and brushing up on her literature.

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#5888: Mar 23rd 2019 at 3:09:42 AM

Spoiler

V had to return

Its just a tragic truth

'insert 4 games basically retconing this event from necessary evil to unnecessary cruelty that needs to be righted'

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#5890: Mar 24th 2019 at 3:03:59 AM

Which branches of the Three faces of Adam do you guys think Dante, Vergil and Nero fit?

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#5891: Mar 24th 2019 at 4:43:45 AM

I don't think any of them really fit as The Prophet. I'd say Nero and Virgil both are The Hunter in different ways. Dante has become The Lord by DMC V.

I'd argue that maybe Sparda had become The Prophet near the end of his life.

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#5892: Mar 24th 2019 at 12:23:18 PM

I still say have Dante's daughter pop up from somewhere and be woohoo pizza yeah and Nero be the straight man who doesn't want no cousin rivalry. Female Sparda bloodline plz.

No, I don't see the virtue of going beyond Sparda bloodline since that's what literally the entire plot of the games have been centered around. Sparda's bloodline is the overall MC of the games. Make spinoff games if you want. If it isn't him, or didn't come out of his balls, or his balls' balls, it can't be a mainline DMC tongue

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ShirowShirow Down with the Privileged🪓 from Land of maple syrup Since: Nov, 2009
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#5893: Mar 24th 2019 at 12:36:26 PM

DMC is ultimately about family.

I definitely see Dadte's daughter goading Nero into a boss battle, gets herself stabbed through the chest, and then starts freaking about it. "OH MY GOD! Why would you do that!? I'm just a teenage girl! I was just messing around! You monster!" Nero panics for a few solid seconds before she starts laughing and pulls it out of her sternum.

Edited by ShirowShirow on Mar 24th 2019 at 3:36:50 PM

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#5894: Mar 24th 2019 at 12:48:49 PM

Wonder what she'd do to try and spark some rivalry. Eat Nero's pizza?

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GoldenKaos Captain of the Dead City from Cirith Ungol Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#5895: Mar 24th 2019 at 12:53:57 PM

Nick a Devil Arm?

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ShirowShirow Down with the Privileged🪓 from Land of maple syrup Since: Nov, 2009
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#5896: Mar 24th 2019 at 12:58:42 PM

Eat a devil arm, clearly.

I don't think anyone that takes after Dante has to do much more than talk to get someone in a fighting mood though.

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#5897: Mar 24th 2019 at 1:00:59 PM

I mean, she'd just have to swing at him, really.

"...in the end the Shadow was only a small and passing thing: there was light and high beauty for ever beyond its reach."
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#5898: Mar 24th 2019 at 4:09:47 PM

I mean Nero himself has gotten stabbed through the chest with a giant sword too. It isn't that huge a deal for Sparda's bloodline.

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#5899: Mar 24th 2019 at 4:31:21 PM

Yeah, but if Nero doesn't know that yet...

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#5900: Mar 24th 2019 at 4:34:24 PM

The hypothetical Dante's daughter should cause trouble with Nero by hitting on Kyrie


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