Spinnerette

Nice art, and a fun idea but...too much fanservice. And the main character seems kind of annoying to me. A bit like the main character from Sailor Moon, but she's probably a lot older.

Does this comic really have that much more fanservice than your average female superhero?

I think so, yeah. The character designs, definitely. Spinerette is short and small and, as evidenced by her abs, hasn't got an ounce of fat on her body or it would cover those up. She is still, somehow, incredibly busty. Her roomate, too. Double D's? Those just don't happen unless you're bordering on morbidly obese.

And then there's the way the panels are posed and...ugh. (the poses are what really set it apart from other female superhero comics, but that's not to say they don't have too much fan service as well)

Also, this is an art critique, but the crotches of her characters are often impossibly high. I'll find a pic 'cause it's too hard to explain.

Here, let's all stare at crotches for a minute. I can't even quite say what's wrong with them, but it's something.

edited 11th Aug '10 3:47:16 PM by DaeBrayk

I haven't read many superhero comics, I'll admit. So I can't answer that. It just seems like there are a large amount of tightly-clad asses in this one.

Edit: To get away from fanservice, this page confuses me a bit http://www.krakowstudios.com/spinnerette/archive.php?date=20100507 wouldn't putting her downwards, or the statue upwards make her look shorter?

edited 11th Aug '10 4:47:42 PM by boobustuber

That seems to be the artists style, if you read the later chapters of Marilith.

Dae Brayk: In that page, at least, the problem isn't exactly with the crotches but how their legs are positioned and the enormous space between them (the crotches should be lower though yeah). If they just standing with legs straight down instead of doing the pee-pee dance it would look pretty creepy and unnatural. I guess the idea behind giving them Turian hips is to make their hips look wider and sexier without giving the characters huge thunder thighs to match, but it rarely pans out, because you can't have it both ways. It's something anime tends to do, so animesque styles have picked it up too I guess.

edited 11th Aug '10 5:34:53 PM by Luzerne

Hogtied

Who expected this to happen? Anyone?

Nah, I was expecting it to take longer to beat her. Excellent ending though.

Her roomate, too. Double D's? Those just don't happen unless you're bordering on morbidly obese.

Not true. Much less common in real life than comics, but still very possible.

Up until now the fanservice hasn't bothered me. But Super-Milf. She bugs me.

I bet it's the name. It's the name,isn't it?

I think this comic is cute. Fanservice is what it's about, so... it seems like it'd be silly to levy criticism against that aspect. Fanservice, in my book, should only be an issue if it's out of place in the work in question.

If only it'd update more often.

And it has,with a new storyline!

Starts here.

Really,really, getting an Empowered vibe here. Nice touch of reality here (running a drug lag to buy blood),though did they really have to go with the sparkly vampire? I'm trying to think of a less inspired parody,but it's not coming. :-/

You folks say fanservice like it's a bad thing.

In a fantasy world where people can turn into spider-centaurs and grow extra arms almost overnight along with the bone structure, nerves, blood supply and neural brain connections to use them, you're actually complaining that the women aren't being drawn realistically?

So it contains a heavy dose of fanservice. It also seems to have an actual plot, takes a stab at deconstructing the usual inane comic book world, and throws in interesting characters and the artwork is professional.

I'm cool with fanservice!

I'm less cool with superheroes testifying in court. It's great that the author is trying to address the problem of superheroes not bothering to try and stick convictions, but permitting testimony from anonymous, masked individuals is a legal NIGHTMARE.

edited 8th Oct '10 2:59:07 PM by TobiasDrake

Well they aren't really anonymous, they are testifying as their superhero identities. It's not Mr. Anonymous behind a screen, it's Spinerette as Spinerette.

I love the lampshade on Most Common Super Power and how most super heroes are so young.

In a fantasy world where people can turn into spider-centaurs and grow extra arms almost overnight along with the bone structure, nerves, blood supply and neural brain connections to use them, you're actually complaining that the women aren't being drawn realistically?

Yes. Taking liberties with the laws of nature is a necessity of the genre, and requires a suspension of disbelief. Extreme fanservice is a convention of the genre that requires suspension of taste.

edited 8th Oct '10 9:28:08 PM by Desertopa

Well they aren't really anonymous, they are testifying as their superhero identities. It's not Mr. Anonymous behind a screen, it's Spinerette as Spinerette.

Spinnerette isn't a legal identity. She's a masked persona with an anonymous civilian identity. There is no way to legally prove that the woman sitting in that witness stand right now is Spinnerette, and not a woman dressed as Spinnerette.

You can look at her and say, "Yeah, I think that's her," but how can you legally prove her identity when she has no legal identity to prove?

Hence: legal nightmare. Evil Spinnerette could probably walk out of the courtroom today if her attorney simply challenges the anonymity of the witness. The only witnesses to her crime are anonymous. How do you prove the woman in the witness stand is the same woman that apprehended her, without establishing the identity of either?

edited 8th Oct '10 11:58:50 PM by TobiasDrake

It's mentioned that the law allowing Spinnerette to testify was passed in 1974, so presumably there''s now a load of precedents establishing just how to verify that she's who she claims she is without revealing her secret ID. Evil Spinnerette's attorney is unlikely to have anything new up her/his/its sleeve.

Laws can be challenged by a skilled enough attorney.

Even if she loses this case, her attorney can appeal to another court. All he needs to do is present a strong enough case that not establishing the identity of the witness renders it impossible to prove that the witness was ever actually present for the event in question. Anyone could be Spinnerette. I could be Spinnerette. You could be Spinnerette. How are we to know that Spinnerette was even there if we don't know who she is?

Now, obviously, she was. And it would be kind of hard to BS her six arms, but that's beside the point. Evil Spinnerette's actual culpability in the matter is irrelevant; what matters is if you can legally prove her guilt, and if her attorney successfully invalidates the testimony of the witnesses, it will hurt their case significantly. Appeal it high enough and he may even be able to have the Suprahuman Justice Act repealed.

Now, this is unlikely to actually occur. Just saying. Legal nightmare.

edited 9th Oct '10 6:50:49 AM by TobiasDrake

I would guess that appeals on exactly that point are in fact standard operating procedure; and have at least a few times gone to higher courts, which have upheld the convictions or set particular limits to the use of superhero testimony. Spinnerette, being kind of naive, might be surprised and worried by this, but Tiger and Mecha Maid have surely been through that experience before.

Perhaps. But it only takes one successful attorney to overturn a law.

But, probably not going to happen. I somehow doubt Spinnerette is going to turn into a court drama. Just Bugs Me, is all, since the very nature of the act is a violation of Due Process, and harmful to the concept of a fair and just trial.

edited 9th Oct '10 8:36:28 AM by TobiasDrake

There is no way to legally prove that the woman sitting in that witness stand right now is Spinnerette, and not a woman dressed as Spinnerette.

The "can she shoot web out of her backside or not" test has a 99.8% certainty rate.