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Prfnoff Since: Jan, 2001
#1: Oct 3rd 2010 at 1:16:52 PM

The launch button has disappeared from all active YKTTWs, recent and past. I hope this is temporary. I also hope that this message actually appears — last time it vanished.

Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#2: Oct 3rd 2010 at 1:22:21 PM

Look at the twitter post.

edited 3rd Oct '10 1:22:53 PM by Ghilz

Prfnoff Since: Jan, 2001
#3: Oct 3rd 2010 at 1:35:55 PM

That doesn't explain why YKTTWs from months ago can't be launched.

Raso Cure Candy Since: Jul, 2009
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#4: Oct 3rd 2010 at 1:36:43 PM

The system just started today so the timer just started today...

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Prfnoff Since: Jan, 2001
#5: Oct 3rd 2010 at 1:51:07 PM

So no discussions whatsoever can be launched for 3 days? That's useless. And if the timer on old YKTTWs doesn't start until they get YKTTW Bumped, that would be ridiculously useless.

FastEddie Since: Apr, 2004
#6: Oct 3rd 2010 at 1:55:56 PM

No, the items whose last reply was more than three days ago or replied to after about 7 last night and madew more than three days ago can be launched. The other stuff will just have to wait out the three days.

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Prfnoff Since: Jan, 2001
#7: Oct 3rd 2010 at 2:09:49 PM

That's not what I'm seeing. This (no replies for months) can't be launched. Nor can this (last reply today). The latter brings to mind the question of whether this system will be thrown off by Rolling Updates.

FastEddie Since: Apr, 2004
#8: Oct 3rd 2010 at 3:36:24 PM

Those are being viewed through discussion.php. You've never been able to launch from there. Only from YKTTW. In YKTTW, look up "I Am Not Your Father". Launch button. Now search for it through the keyword tool. No launch button.

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Prfnoff Since: Jan, 2001
#9: Oct 3rd 2010 at 6:45:18 PM

First of all, in my experience I've been able to launch from discussion.php in the past. Second, if you mean by "look up" increasing the YKTTW interval, I haven't been and aren't able to do that due to browser issues which I can't fix. I guess I'll have to settle for gratuitously bumping tropes before launching them.

Third, the launch button seems to appear on YKTTW itself, if I open the replies for a trope satisfying the three-day requirement. However, Rolling Updates do seem to be confusing the system, as shown by the lack of a launch button for We Swear This Index Is Not Offensive (which I don't even want to launch), whose OP says "added: 2010-10-02" but whose first reply is dated 2010-09-29.

FastEddie Since: Apr, 2004
#10: Oct 3rd 2010 at 6:48:39 PM

Bumping tropes has nothing to do with it. A trope can't be launched until three days after it is created. The system used to update the create date to the date of the last reply. It doesn't do that anymore. In another two days, all the items older than three days which were replied to before the change will have a create date qualifying it for launch.

edited 3rd Oct '10 7:02:34 PM by FastEddie

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Micah from traveling the post-doc circuit Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#11: Oct 4th 2010 at 2:24:41 PM

I can understand not being able to launch tropes to an actual page for 72 hours, but not being able to discard them is really annoying.

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KrisMahai Hm? Since: Jan, 2013
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#12: Oct 4th 2010 at 8:29:07 PM

Micah has a point. Maybe that could be changed?

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Vree Since: Jan, 2001
#13: Oct 5th 2010 at 10:11:41 AM

Well, you can still just edit and then discard, so no big issue.

Micah from traveling the post-doc circuit Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#14: Oct 5th 2010 at 1:25:20 PM

Then you have a bunch of zombie entries clogging things up until their launch buttons appear, which is still really annoying. Not to mention that discarded discussions can be brought back if someone happens to think they're viable, while edited-to-nothing discussions can't.

edited 5th Oct '10 1:25:46 PM by Micah

132 is the rudest number.
Vree Since: Jan, 2001
#15: Oct 5th 2010 at 5:26:13 PM

Why would you want to edit them to nothing? Just search and view them in discussion.php like you normally would, then click Edit and Save so that it gets thumped and redirects you instantly back into the YKTTW page, then you can proceed to discard it.

I agree that it is a cloggy solution - just saying that you one is not neccessarily prevented from doing it the way one got used to.

Seconding those who said that launch used to work from discussion.php before (or wherever the search in YKTTW took you to) - I don't know why, but it did.

SeanMurrayI Since: Jan, 2010
#16: Oct 5th 2010 at 7:00:53 PM

Several articles that have been in YKTTW for well over 72 hours are now impossible to launch just because someone replied to it... That's including if someone simply replies "Just Launch It Already" in an old article, as is the case right now with this YKTTW of mine that I was just about ready to launch.

edited 5th Oct '10 7:02:21 PM by SeanMurrayI

shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#17: Oct 5th 2010 at 7:21:01 PM

You should be able to launch it at 19:18:57 PDT. So, wait four hours and you'll be fine.

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SeanMurrayI Since: Jan, 2010
#18: Oct 5th 2010 at 9:06:06 PM

^Well, it's already past 21:00 PDT now, and there've been no changes.

I only hope that the "replied to in the last three days" criteria is only a temporary setback as this new measure is put into place, otherwise I think a Magnificent Bastard or two may have a novel tool at their disposal now with which to prevent any tropes they may not like from ever actually launching.

edited 5th Oct '10 9:45:09 PM by SeanMurrayI

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#19: Oct 5th 2010 at 9:08:08 PM

[1] We shail soon see I am also waiting to launch this one. (my first YKTTW that turned out decent)

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Raso Cure Candy Since: Jul, 2009
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#20: Oct 6th 2010 at 9:10:39 PM

ok its been 4 days and I am still waiting to launch this [1]

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Marioguy128 Geomancer from various galaxies Since: Jan, 2010
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#21: Oct 6th 2010 at 9:13:40 PM

Hmm. I think you have to use a different link.

edited 6th Oct '10 9:16:18 PM by Marioguy128

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FastEddie Since: Apr, 2004
#22: Oct 6th 2010 at 9:43:21 PM

Look at it through YKTTW, not search results. Launch button shows up just fine.

edited 6th Oct '10 9:43:37 PM by FastEddie

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Raso Cure Candy Since: Jul, 2009
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#23: Oct 6th 2010 at 10:03:21 PM

I must be blind or I need to use another browser besides Firefox because I just don't see it. ><

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Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
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#24: Oct 6th 2010 at 10:12:53 PM

If you are searching the YKTTW for a word in the title, and looking at that version, you're looking at the searched page. Go to YKTTW and scroll down until you find it. That one should have the launch button on it.

Hmm. She's right. It doesn't, Eddie.

Hmm, it looks like it might be waiting for midnight of the third calendar day following creation, not 72 hours from creation. The ones that were made on the third of October haven't got launch buttons, no matter what time on the third they were made. Today is still the 6th server time.

edited 6th Oct '10 10:35:26 PM by Madrugada

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FreezairForALimitedTime Responsible adult from Planet Claire Since: Jan, 2001
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#25: Oct 6th 2010 at 10:14:25 PM

Is there anything that can be done about that? Any fix? If a YKTTW's been sitting for the required three days, it's probably fallen quite a ways. Searching is much more convenient.

"Proto-Indo-European makes the damnedest words related. It's great. It's the Kevin Bacon of etymology." ~Madrugada

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