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TitanJump Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: Singularity
#21451: Oct 6th 2021 at 8:19:27 AM

Dragons are a proud race and it is noted in-verse that dragon-types are notoriously difficult to train, which is why Lance is so highly-admired as a member of Elite-four and the last obstacle between the challengers and the Champion-title.

If you want their respect and loyalty, you have to seriously earn it.

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#21452: Oct 6th 2021 at 8:21:48 AM

It's why Drayden trained them by wrestling with them with his bare hands.

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#21453: Oct 6th 2021 at 9:01:20 AM

Well technically Charizard isn't a Drago-

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
alekos23 𐀀𐀩𐀯𐀂𐀰𐀅𐀑𐀄 from Apparently a locked thread of my choice Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#21454: Oct 6th 2021 at 9:02:47 AM

that's why he's always so mad

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#21455: Oct 6th 2021 at 9:54:25 AM

[up]X4 and [up][up][up]

Huh. That explains Iris' problems with her Dragonite.

But it doesn't explain why Ash isn't having the same issues with his Dragonite.

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DevilSketch36 Since: May, 2020
#21456: Oct 6th 2021 at 10:01:00 AM

He earned it through non violent methods: helping. Ash's Dragonite is just as compassionate as it's owner.

drakecake72 Since: May, 2020 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#21457: Oct 6th 2021 at 10:25:08 AM

Still think that Iris's disobedient Dragon mon should have been Hydreigon. Putting aside my own bias since it is my favorite Pokemon, it's a difficult Pokemon to take care of all the way through it's line. Bites everything as a Deino, gorges and argues with itself as a Zweilous, and is aggressive as a Hydreigon. The ultimate challenge for a dragon master like Iris.

Plus, Dragonite had enough exposure even back then and Hydreigon deserved to be an ace anime Pokemon in it's own generation.

Edited by drakecake72 on Oct 6th 2021 at 10:25:49 AM

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#21458: Oct 6th 2021 at 4:54:23 PM

Btw, are there any particularly memorable filler episodes from Johto on? They could have good character moments, cool battles, interesting PokΓ©mon, or just stick out in any other way.

For the record, aside from the obvious stuff, I'm generally classifying something as non-filler if it features a character that we've seen before, even if it doesn't actually impact the overall plot (example: Duplica's two episodes).

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#21459: Oct 6th 2021 at 5:17:23 PM

The episode when Ash turns into a Pikachu.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
ViperMagnum357 Since: Mar, 2012
#21460: Oct 6th 2021 at 6:28:45 PM

Wired for Battle!, Two Hits and a Miss, and Ring Masters are my favorites of Johto, even above most of the gym episodes.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#21461: Oct 6th 2021 at 6:31:42 PM

Wired for Battle!

At first I was like ???, then I remembered it was the Heracross vs Scizor episode, and then I was like [tup].

I still remember it for that animation bump in the middle of the battle, where it seemed like they switched to the same digital animation they were using in the opening theme at the time.

One Strip! One Strip!
KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#21462: Oct 6th 2021 at 6:31:50 PM

[up][up] Hm, looking it up, technically the last wouldn't qualify as filler, as that's where they get the King's Rock that will eventually evolve Misty's Poliwhirl, but I appreciate the reccomendation regardless!

If anyone knows where I can find a list of good filler episodes, it would be much appreciated!

Edited by KarkatTheDalek on Oct 6th 2021 at 9:32:18 AM

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lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#21463: Oct 6th 2021 at 7:46:07 PM

The Stolen Stones ranks among Team Rocket's best showings to this day, and Fly Me to the Moon is grade-A heartwarming/tearjerker material. Just Add Water is great too for Psyduck lovers!

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KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#21464: Oct 6th 2021 at 7:47:51 PM

Hm, I had the latter two on my list, but I'll check out the first one as well! Thanks!

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precita Since: Jan, 2014
#21465: Oct 6th 2021 at 8:17:09 PM

Most of the Wobbufett themed eps in Johto were good, as Wobbufett was a new pokemon at the time and got a lot of fun episodes unlike the background prop it became in every series from Hoenn onward. The Larvitar arc is also good as it contains a mix of both important and filler eps to the end.

Also "Just waiting on a friend" with a ghost Ninetails is probably one of the best Brock eps of the series.

Edited by precita on Oct 6th 2021 at 8:20:54 AM

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#21466: Oct 6th 2021 at 8:51:35 PM

Quite frankly, the mere appearance of Wobbuffet is enough to satisfy me. I do recall a couple times where it got the spotlight later on, if I recall correctly.

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Joshbones Since: May, 2015
#21467: Oct 7th 2021 at 1:26:02 PM

My favorite Johto filler is the zodiac one where James dresses as a Moltres. It's really funny and a great Butch and Cassidy episode.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#21468: Oct 7th 2021 at 1:41:48 PM

Moltres has freed you from your bonds! Come! We must fly!

Eric Stuart was what made that possible. He was great.

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KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#21469: Oct 7th 2021 at 6:49:58 PM

All of these are great suggestions, although I do think my definition of "filler" might differ from some (for one thing, I classify Butch and Cassidy as recurring characters, so I don't really count their appearances as "filler").

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drakecake72 Since: May, 2020 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#21470: Oct 7th 2021 at 8:12:26 PM

[up][up] Would be great if we could get a reference to that in a future episode with James dressed up as a Galarian Moltres.

GlitterCat Since: Mar, 2018 Relationship Status: The Skitty to my Wailord
#21471: Oct 8th 2021 at 7:55:48 AM

I love fly me to the moon. Meowth saves that Pidgeys life with oxygen and the twerps just stand there and do nothing. And I love him watching the moon with his Pidgey friend. So cute. I also like the poke spokesman where Meowth boosts the spirit of the guy who wants to understand pokespeak.

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Demetrios Our Favorite Cowgirl, er, Mare from Des Plaines, Illinois (unfortunately) Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
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#21472: Oct 8th 2021 at 7:59:45 AM

Did y'all hear the news? There's a new Pokemon movie: Secret of the Jungle.

I like to keep my audience riveted.
DonaldthePotholer Since: Dec, 2009
#21473: Oct 8th 2021 at 1:47:07 PM

Sidebar on Karkat's opine on "Friends Until the End": Last month, a poster took episode off of the Series Fauxnale page and put on the Sinnoh finale. While I think that Sinnoh has a case, I think that "Friends" also has one and I'd like some opinion on that. More of an "Is it applicable" than "which is most applicable".

In total, I think that 5 episodes can qualify as Series Fauxnales. I never saw the last, but I counted it because it marked the end of the "Ash as a Challenger" eranote :

  • The end of the Indigo League (FUtE)
  • The end of the Sinnoh saga
  • The end of the Vertress Conference
  • The end of the Kalos saga
  • The end of the Alola saga

drakecake72 Since: May, 2020 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#21474: Oct 8th 2021 at 5:49:54 PM

So I just got done with Secrets of the Jungle on Netflix and it's pretty good. Definitely one of the higher tier Pokemon movies even if it is just Disney's Tarzan with the romance swapped out for Pokemon.

The father-son relationship between Koko and Zarude is really sweet. And they're both strong characters individually too as they deal with an identity crisis and insecurity about being a good parent respectively. Which is nice because everything that doesn't involve those two is kind of average for a Pokemon film.

Ash fans, prepare to be disappointed though. He's taking a backseat to the new characters again just like in the last movie in the AU series (something I'm all for, personally). Plus he doesn't use any Pokemon other than Pikachu and all the hubbub about his dad was way overblown for what was just Ash recalling something inspirational he said.

Always good to see Tetsuo Yajima's 3D battle shots and the original soundtrack is wonderful. The dubbed one is more generic, with the only stand-out songs being the Zarude theme, the one in the opening montage and the English cover of Koko's theme, which the latter didn't even make the final cut.

Edited by drakecake72 on Oct 8th 2021 at 5:56:01 AM

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#21475: Oct 12th 2021 at 11:10:08 AM

Is anyone else kinda amused that Galar which seems to be the game most based on the anime. (Talking legendary Pokemon, A tournament for Champion, ) is also the one that the anime hasn't really been adapting.

Like it's odd.

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."

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