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Edited by nombretomado on Sep 23rd 2019 at 4:42:19 AM

Mew1996 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
Nov 8th 2019 at 4:41:13 PM

Yes, he does have the same sins, and there was another argument.

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NTG
Nov 8th 2019 at 4:43:44 PM

@papyru30: As I said in the EP, three of his victims are shown during the mission briefing. If you want, you can watch it here.

TheMadCr0w A God Am I from Insignificant Little Blue Planet Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Nov 8th 2019 at 4:45:35 PM

[up][up] Oh and the thing with Angelus is that he was Angel's original personality, not a Super-Powered Evil Side. So yeah, aside from the possible heinousness issue, I'm not certain if Thanatos has 100% agency.

Edited by TheMadCr0w on Nov 8th 2019 at 10:48:16 AM

To study the body, you cut it open. To study the mind, you isolate it by crushing the heart.
Mew1996 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
Nov 8th 2019 at 4:45:59 PM

and Thanatos [[The End of the World as We Know It apocalyptic threat level is all but directly confirmed and the fics Voldemort is loyal to canon.

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DelphineTheDelphox Henry x Ellie, convict-shipping from The Alola Region Relationship Status: Squeeeeeeeeeeeee!
Henry x Ellie, convict-shipping
Nov 8th 2019 at 4:46:32 PM

I'm leaning [tdown] to the Censor. As vile as he is, he doesn't really stand out in terms of heinousness, especially when this series has nutjobs like Oybek Nabazov and the rest of his cult.

Edited by dragonfire5000 on Nov 8th 2019 at 4:48:46 AM

Mew1996 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
Nov 8th 2019 at 4:47:06 PM

He's just a Expy Mr. Madcrow

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papyru30 It was me! from Colorado Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
It was me!
Nov 8th 2019 at 4:48:39 PM

[tdown] Censor, echoing Dragonfire's reasoning

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Mew1996 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
Nov 8th 2019 at 4:48:50 PM

and if Harry has agency, Thanatos has too.

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AlmightyKingPrawn Darkwing Goose from The Last Resort Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
Darkwing Goose
Nov 8th 2019 at 4:49:54 PM

[tup] Censor. Abstaining on Thanatos until more info, leaning [tup]

Play Luigi's Mansion 3 for the love of god it's so good.
NTG
Nov 8th 2019 at 4:49:57 PM

@dragonfire5000 Have you take the resources into account? Nabazov had a cult of brainwashed followers, received a large sum of money from an unknown source and has a mad scientist who helped him create a killer virus.

The Censor is just one guy.

Donít get me wrong, if you donít think he counts thatís fine. I just believe itís unfair to compare him to someone who had a lot more resources.

DelphineTheDelphox Henry x Ellie, convict-shipping from The Alola Region Relationship Status: Squeeeeeeeeeeeee!
Henry x Ellie, convict-shipping
Nov 8th 2019 at 4:51:29 PM

Nay to Censor before I forget.

Story by me.
AlmightyKingPrawn Darkwing Goose from The Last Resort Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
Darkwing Goose
Nov 8th 2019 at 4:51:35 PM

Changing to [tdown] Censor. That was some fast mind-changing I just did.

Play Luigi's Mansion 3 for the love of god it's so good.
Nov 8th 2019 at 4:51:41 PM

Yes, I did take resources into account. And he still doesn't really stand out to me. Heck, the Angel of Death comes across as bad, if not worse, than he is.

Edited by dragonfire5000 on Nov 8th 2019 at 4:52:46 AM

NTG
Nov 8th 2019 at 4:54:06 PM

@dragonfire5000 The Angel of Deathís crime are off-screen. So they aren't added to the overall heinous standard.

Nov 8th 2019 at 5:11:45 PM

[tup] the Censor

Your coming together...will be your undoing
Nov 8th 2019 at 5:38:18 PM

Abstain on both (Censor & Thanatos)

Edited by nwotyzal on Nov 8th 2019 at 5:41:49 AM

Nov 8th 2019 at 5:38:54 PM

[up]x4 My understanding is that the Censor's crimes are also committed offscreen and only found out through secondhand knowledge, unless there's a victim he's in the middle of or finished brutalizing that you can find in-game. Or are we using some other definition of "offscreen?"

I brought up Etta Davis precisely because this thread ruled that she didn't count; she has a higher body count and does not seem to have significantly higher resources than the Censor, so she still comes across equally or more heinous than him. And I still think neither of them really stand out compared to the other horror shows in this series.

So, having said my piece, I'm maintaining my [tdown]. This is the last I'll speak about this particular candidate; I'll let the others on this thread vote.

Nov 8th 2019 at 5:40:34 PM

Hey Irrose, I do have a question about Outer Worlds. Would you consider Graham, the Iconoclast leader, as anywhere close to this trope? He orchestrates the slaughter of Amber Heights to get rid of competition, organizes the attack and razing of Stellar Bay if you help him, and treats his own people as expendable resources. I know the game talks a lot about his guilt over Amber Heights, but his actions seem to suggest it's more his ego talking. Do you think his guilt is genuine and disqualifies him?

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Libraryseraph Take my revolution! from Canada Relationship Status: Longing for Dulcinea
NTG
Nov 8th 2019 at 5:49:56 PM

@dragonfire5000: You can see the corpses of three of his victims in the mission briefing. The mission briefing I linked earlier. Itís made clear that these people are his victims. If you see death people on-screen itís no longer off-screen.

DemonDuckofDoom Keep away from Pumpkinhead from Some Pond in Hell Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
Keep away from Pumpkinhead
Nov 8th 2019 at 5:52:19 PM

[tup] Xian, Barkov, Kingsley, Narcissa, Thanatos, Isaac, Palmer and Judd

[tdown] Bloodman

Abstain on Censor

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NTG
Nov 8th 2019 at 6:04:27 PM

Alright, this was my last EP.

I put time and effort in this, took notes, replayed the game and watched several videos only for the EP to get rejected because a cult leader with a killer virus can be compared to a lone serial killer and because suddenly itís not enough to show the corpse but you also have to see the candidate actually stabbing them which goes against everything established here.

This is just frustrating. Iíve reached a point where it believe itís simply no longer worth my time. So goodbye everyone.I'm leaving and I'll try not to let the door hit me.

Nov 8th 2019 at 6:05:52 PM

If we see Corpses then that's enough for it to Qualify as onscreen.

Your coming together...will be your undoing

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