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Edited by Synchronicity on Jul 15th 2023 at 11:35:01 AM

EditorPallMall Don't Fear the Spiders from United States, East Coast Since: Feb, 2013
Don't Fear the Spiders
#2776: Feb 26th 2013 at 2:43:34 PM

I have used a number of accounts (around five, excluding this one which I intend to keep) over my course of using TVtropes. The last one I used has been inactive for at least two-and-a-half years (more likely three). Some usernames I do remember; but the baggage entails some downright stupid and/or offensive comments I have made. I would rather not state them publicly unless absolutely necessary.

Also, since my last post, PM privileges have been disabled for me. -sigh- Yes, I've made some mistakes, but right now I'd really like to resolve this whole affair in a speedy fashion. I'll extend my aforementioned plea bargain to 72 hours.

edited 26th Feb '13 2:44:01 PM by EditorPallMall

Keep it breezy!
FastEddie MOD Since: Apr, 2004
#2777: Feb 26th 2013 at 4:36:17 PM

Sounds like you have been so nonconstructive in the past that you freaked yourself out. You have been stepping on more toes in your one day back than most people do in years. Yes, please do refrain from editing until you have an opportunity to absorb the culture a little better. It is all about collaboration.

Remind us on Monday, March 4 and we'll drop the editing suspension.

edited 26th Feb '13 4:36:37 PM by FastEddie

Goal: Clear, Concise and Witty
EditorPallMall Don't Fear the Spiders from United States, East Coast Since: Feb, 2013
Don't Fear the Spiders
#2778: Feb 26th 2013 at 4:58:31 PM

A week? I'm not happy about this but I don't have any room to complain. I'll use the time to study the rules more thoroughly.

In the meantime, I see no reason why I should have PMs disabled. Yes, I broke yet another rule about divulging PM content. Thanks for leaving me to my own devices to figure it out. I apologize, I thought it was OK given the context, I won't make an excuse in the future (really, shouldn't these punishments go to repeat offenders?). But I can't even check my inbox now, and I have this annoying green banner saying I have a new PM. Which I can't see who it's from or what's in it. There's a bit of irony here.

edited 26th Feb '13 4:59:30 PM by EditorPallMall

Keep it breezy!
FastEddie MOD Since: Apr, 2004
#2779: Feb 26th 2013 at 5:01:11 PM

PM restored

Goal: Clear, Concise and Witty
EditorPallMall Don't Fear the Spiders from United States, East Coast Since: Feb, 2013
Don't Fear the Spiders
#2780: Feb 26th 2013 at 5:30:14 PM

Thank you. I'm glad we could come to an amicable resolution.

Keep it breezy!
miru Knouge forever!! Since: Jan, 2001
Knouge forever!!
#2781: Feb 27th 2013 at 7:10:09 PM

I wonder why I was edit banned. The last edit I made was adding the Babylon Rogues to the Nominal Hero page, whereas Komodin claims they are Anti Heroes. I want to edit again.

edited 27th Feb '13 7:12:16 PM by miru

I am completely, utterly, and thoroughly done with Sola Sonica and 2D
shimaspawn MOD from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#2782: Feb 27th 2013 at 7:13:20 PM

miru: You have a long standing problem with Zero Context Examples. I would appreciate it if you read through that page and tell me what you've done wrong. Thank you.

edited 27th Feb '13 7:13:40 PM by shimaspawn

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
under Since: Jun, 2012
#2783: Feb 27th 2013 at 9:28:46 PM

"Under, it is our experience that people with "agendas" to push don't get along well with the wiki. Agendas can be anything from censoring every mention of the word "God" to obsessively correcting a perceived bias against a person, country, or political party to making up your mind that the word "gay" is derogatory and telling us off over it. note The only way we'll let you edit is if you promise, unconditionally, to cut it out with this idea that you need to correct perceived insults toward authors or works that you like. If you feel that an article is inappropriately derogatory, bring it up on the Discussion page, Ask The Tropers, or here on the forums. We operate by consensus. If people generally agree, then and only then do you take action"

Ok, I'll stop. I'll quit it with trying to correct people I feel are being insulting. Just pleaeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeese let me edit again. I

Matthais123 Matthais Unidostres Since: Apr, 2011
Matthais Unidostres
#2784: Feb 28th 2013 at 11:22:26 AM

Okay, I've learned my lesson. I won't censor swear words anymore. It's not my place. So, may I please be allowed to edit again? I'll just stick to WM Gs and YKTT Ws. I won't cause any trouble anymore. I promise. So, may I please re-enter T Vtropes? Also, I think I was banned a year ago. So, is my punishment up?

edited 28th Feb '13 11:23:52 AM by Matthais123

Jesus is the Way, the Truth, and the Life.
Fighteer MOD Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#2785: Feb 28th 2013 at 11:38:27 AM

@under: I will remove your suspension. We will be keeping careful track of your activities, though, to make sure there is not a repeat.

@Matthais 123: Same with you. Don't mess up again.

edited 28th Feb '13 11:41:47 AM by Fighteer

"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Westrim deep in though- ow! from The land of hoodoos Since: Jan, 2001
deep in though- ow!
#2786: Feb 28th 2013 at 1:54:19 PM

Apparently I'm edit banned.

One of my first thoughts upon learning that I am banned was to see if there was anything relevant to it in Ask The Tropers and a couple discussion pages, but they're hidden behind the ban barrier. It seems counterproductive to block visibility of discussion.

edited 28th Feb '13 2:13:02 PM by Westrim

I rarely visit the forums to avoid the cynicism ooze.
FastEddie MOD Since: Apr, 2004
#2787: Feb 28th 2013 at 3:19:26 PM

Westrim: Could you help us understand why you removed the cautions in admin comments on Ambiguous Disorder not to make examples about Aspberger's Syndrome? Obviously, it is a point we wanted to make about the trope and since you removed it, there have been multiple instances of such entries that had to be removed.

Also, looking through your edit history there are a lot deletions that look like they done because you don't get/approve of the humour.

edited 28th Feb '13 3:19:48 PM by FastEddie

Goal: Clear, Concise and Witty
Westrim deep in though- ow! from The land of hoodoos Since: Jan, 2001
deep in though- ow!
#2788: Feb 28th 2013 at 3:44:26 PM

Wha-? That was over a year ago, so give me some time to clear the cobwebs.

Okay, it looks like I exchanged some messages with Cryptic Mirror back when it happened, and that led to the reason; redundancy. The message was repeated three times, so I trimmed it down to one. It had been a while since a switch in titles which the messages predated, and I reasoned that a person who missed one message right at the top wasn't likely to see the other two grouped with it. In addition the two were specifically about autism, which the intro no longer mentioned. They seemed like they were as much an artifact as any other mention of autism on the page.

I can't recall deleting anything because I didn't find it humorous. Most of my entry trims are to make them more clear and less cluttered, which may mean that a joke gets removed, but I try to preserve droll writing.

edited 28th Feb '13 3:46:00 PM by Westrim

I rarely visit the forums to avoid the cynicism ooze.
FastEddie MOD Since: Apr, 2004
#2789: Feb 28th 2013 at 4:52:27 PM

I see. Cool thing about redundancy with cautions is that the repetition works. Let's have a discussion the next time you think an admin comment needs to be removed, okay? Suspension lifted.

Goal: Clear, Concise and Witty
Tiggle3 Since: Nov, 2012
#2790: Feb 28th 2013 at 8:10:52 PM

Hi, I logged in today and I have no idea why I'm suspended. There was no warning, no private message, nothing. Can I please have an explanation?

Willbyr MOD Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
Hi
#2791: Feb 28th 2013 at 8:16:18 PM

[up] Blanking Wendell And Vinnie instead of cutlisting it or moving it to the proper namespace. Page blanking is never tolerated.

Tiggle3 Since: Nov, 2012
#2792: Feb 28th 2013 at 8:18:02 PM

There was nothing else I could do. I didnt know whether delete tags existed here like The Other Wiki. I was never warned that page blanking was intolerable, especially in this context (Poor grammar, misformatted, no tropes listed). Moving it to the right namespace is not applicable here. There's no way "cutlisting" is on YKTTW. No non-admin knows what "cutlisting means. Obviously if blanking a page under any circumstance cant be tolerated, saying something about how I mean no harm wouldn't have done anything to prevent this ludicrous suspension. I would like my suspension lifted ASAP.

edited 28th Feb '13 8:36:16 PM by Tiggle3

FastEddie MOD Since: Apr, 2004
#2793: Feb 28th 2013 at 9:42:04 PM

See, you were doing great until you got to 'ludicrous'. Like the page says, we use these suspension to bring people in and point them toward what works better than what they are doing. It is not about you. It is about the editing.

YKTTW is a very small section of the site, kind off to one side. The wiki has a great more to it than that. Please have a look at Welcome To TV Tropes and get familiar with rest of the way things work.

I'll lift the suspension. Please try not to take things so personally.

edited 28th Feb '13 9:42:12 PM by FastEddie

Goal: Clear, Concise and Witty
ivan Since: Nov, 2012
#2794: Mar 1st 2013 at 10:55:43 AM

To whom it may concern, I have obviously done a wrong to warrant a banning, to which is I am incredibly sorry about. I would like to know exactly what where the grounds for by Banning, so I can avoid the pitfalls that lead to it and continue being a member of the community. Maybe some specific example so I can understand better the reasoning and in the future make sure I won’t repeat the same problems.

Thank you for your time and I hope that hear your answer as prompt as possible

lu127 MOD Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#2795: Mar 1st 2013 at 11:05:47 AM

Hello, Ivan.

It appears you uncommented entries on Characters.Naruto-Team 7 marked with a %% note. Those entries are called Zero Context Examples because they do not sufficiently explain a trope's usage and are generally subpar. We are trying really hard to stop them from spreading, and shifting the culture towards not using them. For that reason, we hide them with a %%, hoping that editors will add some context in the future. It's the best alternative before deletion.

You also removed a note on Characters.Naruto-The Konoha 12 about not adding Boobs Of Steel. Most double quotation notes serve as reminders or instructions to editors. Please don't remove them like that.

Lastly, I see that you appear to have a problem with Zero Context Examples yourself. Just writing a trope without further explaining why and how it applies is something we're trying to avoid, especially on character pages. We have a thread to help you on How To Write An Example.

If you promise to be more careful with %% notes and visit the thread linked above to polish your writing a bit, I can lift the suspension.

"If you aren't him, then you apparently got your brain from the same discount retailer, so..." - Fighteer
ivan Since: Nov, 2012
#2796: Mar 1st 2013 at 11:20:50 AM

I completely understand. The %% just confused me a bit (More to the point, their reason for being there was what confused me) and I can and will work on the Zero Context Examples (Which in highsight makes sense, explaining your reasoning is part of the fun about this, no?) thing as well as you suggest to avoid these kind of problems in the future

Thank you for clearing up the confusion and your prompt repose and I hope a can merit a lift of suspension with this in mind

edited 1st Mar '13 11:27:43 AM by ivan

ivan Since: Nov, 2012
#2797: Mar 1st 2013 at 11:21:31 AM

I completely understand. The %% just confused me a bit (More to the point, their reason for being there was what confused me) and I can and will work on the Zero Context Examples (Which in highsight makes sense, explaining your reasoning is part of the fun about this, no?) thing as well as you suggest to avoid these kind of problems in the future. Thank you for clearing up the confusion and your prompt repose and I hope a can merit a lift of suspension with this in mind

Sorry for the double post!!

edited 1st Mar '13 11:29:25 AM by ivan

lu127 MOD Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#2798: Mar 1st 2013 at 11:36:28 AM

It's alright, don't worry. I will lift the suspension. Please visit the above thread, I'm sure it will be helpful. smile

edited 18th Oct '13 11:19:15 AM by Madrugada

"If you aren't him, then you apparently got your brain from the same discount retailer, so..." - Fighteer
EditorPallMall Don't Fear the Spiders from United States, East Coast Since: Feb, 2013
Don't Fear the Spiders
#2799: Mar 2nd 2013 at 11:14:09 AM

So I found another punishment that I wasn't aware of before. I cannot post in Trope Repair Shop threads (wtf?). Please lift this punishment. You can still keep me from editing articles in the meantime.

edited 2nd Mar '13 11:14:48 AM by EditorPallMall

Keep it breezy!
miru Knouge forever!! Since: Jan, 2001
Knouge forever!!
#2800: Mar 2nd 2013 at 5:28:27 PM

@shimaspawn I read the page, and realized my wrong in writing zero-context examples. From now on, I am willing to add more context to my examples.

I am completely, utterly, and thoroughly done with Sola Sonica and 2D

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