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zeroplusalpha The World Is Mine from behind the 7th Door Since: Apr, 2009
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#76: Nov 19th 2009 at 1:34:10 AM

^No, I totally agree with you, I'm just describing what happens in the VN. It makes sense, but only in retrospect. Although I didn't hit by that the first time round, I got hit by the " Say you're prepared to take the shroud off? Y/N" choice.

edited 19th Nov '09 1:34:49 AM by zeroplusalpha

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Mapi-chan Since: May, 2009
#77: Nov 19th 2009 at 1:38:59 AM

That's just a whole new level of Yandere. She tops Kotonoha in my book now.

edited 19th Nov '09 1:39:38 AM by Mapi-chan

Arilou Taller than Zim from Quasispace Since: Jan, 2001
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#78: Nov 19th 2009 at 1:52:05 AM

Yes, yes she does.

I think my favourite bit in the novel is still when she's doing her entire trance/hallucination/strema of consciousness thing and is going all I have to protect Shirou, if he'll fight he'll die!... I know! I'll break all his arms and legs! Then he'll be safe! very creepy. Or the fact that one of the things makes her snap is That Rin saw the one moment she considered "hers" she's one screwed up girl.

Still looks the best naked though...

edited 19th Nov '09 1:53:56 AM by Arilou

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zeroplusalpha The World Is Mine from behind the 7th Door Since: Apr, 2009
Arilou Taller than Zim from Quasispace Since: Jan, 2001
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#80: Nov 19th 2009 at 2:28:02 AM

The sheer Grimdark! (but with a massive Earn Your Happy Ending if you do it right and a Tear Jerker if you don't) is why I love Heaven's Feel the most of all the routes.

Also for Rin's incedibly aweosme plan there at the end :p

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Mapi-chan Since: May, 2009
#81: Nov 19th 2009 at 2:33:14 AM

Question: Is Rin also a Kuudere in addition to being a Tsundere?

Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#82: Nov 19th 2009 at 2:36:52 AM

No. She's not.

edited 19th Nov '09 2:42:10 AM by Clarste

Arilou Taller than Zim from Quasispace Since: Jan, 2001
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#83: Nov 19th 2009 at 2:39:40 AM

Yeah, Rin's pretty much as far from stoic as you can get.

EDIT: Saber might qualify in an odd way though?

edited 19th Nov '09 2:40:04 AM by Arilou

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zeroplusalpha The World Is Mine from behind the 7th Door Since: Apr, 2009
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#84: Nov 19th 2009 at 2:40:07 AM

I don't think Rin's unemotional enough to qualify, subjectively speaking.

In fact, she often screws up at the apex of her carefully laid plans because her emotions do get the better of her, and her affection for Sakura is pretty obvious. Shirou even tells her that she's fooling absolutely no-one with all her "I will uphold my duty as a mage at all costs" bravado.

Ninja'd.

edited 19th Nov '09 2:40:46 AM by zeroplusalpha

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Charlatan Since: Mar, 2011
#85: Nov 19th 2009 at 2:43:14 AM

FNJEIIOEWINFIBNUDBUIHYBS

OH GOD LILY SABER IS HOT.

Mapi-chan Since: May, 2009
#86: Nov 19th 2009 at 2:44:29 AM

That she is. I've seen 1/8th sized figurines of Saber Lily. Definitely Fetish Fuel for the guys out there...

catch_the_sun Perpetually Peckish from Shidoni Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
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#87: Nov 19th 2009 at 2:46:21 AM

Now, if only she appears as a Magical Girl alter-ego for Saber. Kind of like Kaleido Ruby for Rin or Magical Amber for Kohaku.

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Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#88: Nov 19th 2009 at 2:46:44 AM

Shirou even tells her that she's fooling absolutely no-one with all her "I will uphold my duty as a mage at all costs" bravado.
Well, Rin does uphold that bravado, in another of those long-delay Dead Ends. I never got caught by the other one you guys have mentioned (maybe I'm naturally diplomatic?), but this one was sort of interesting to me. It's the one where you swear to do whatever she says in exchange for her help, after you lose Saber, and she places a geas on you. When it comes time to figure out what to do with Sakura in the church, she calls it in and kills her own sister while you're paralyzed.

edited 19th Nov '09 2:48:58 AM by Clarste

Charlatan Since: Mar, 2011
#89: Nov 19th 2009 at 2:47:43 AM

You have no idea.

I have to question the protective value og torso armor that effectively and modestly covers the front and leaves the back wide open but when we get down to brass tacks I don't care.

BRRRRRRRRR!!!

I need to take a cold shower now. ;_;

zeroplusalpha The World Is Mine from behind the 7th Door Since: Apr, 2009
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#90: Nov 19th 2009 at 2:52:31 AM

Saber Lily is always in my BMW party. She's cute, she's a Magical Girl, and Everything's Better with Spinning.

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catch_the_sun Perpetually Peckish from Shidoni Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Perpetually Peckish
#91: Nov 19th 2009 at 2:52:46 AM

Alright, hold on. If I remember right, the Dead End where Sakura starts torturing Rin was due to picking the "wrong" choice in Kill Saber. Y/N?.

EDIT: Alright, now I really have to finish Battle Moon Wars. Just to see Saber Lily.

edited 19th Nov '09 2:59:10 AM by catch_the_sun

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Mapi-chan Since: May, 2009
#92: Nov 19th 2009 at 2:57:45 AM

^ I think that should be spoilered.

zeroplusalpha The World Is Mine from behind the 7th Door Since: Apr, 2009
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#93: Nov 19th 2009 at 2:59:21 AM

Kill Saber Y/N isn't the choice that affects that.

The earlier one that has Shirou being asked an awkward question is what determines that ending.

Alright, now I really have to finish Battle Moon Wars. Just to see Saber Lily.

But DAMN if you don't have to earn her. The Bonus Dungeons that are available only if you've obtained all 52 Battle Masteries are pretty hard.

edited 19th Nov '09 2:59:58 AM by zeroplusalpha

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Noimporta Since: Jan, 2001
#94: Nov 19th 2009 at 3:02:37 AM

I must admit Saber is the character that has generated the most Hype Backlash in me since Arcueid. Not because of you, guys, it just seems that Type-moon fans in general can never stop gushing about them.

edited 19th Nov '09 3:03:36 AM by Noimporta

Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#95: Nov 19th 2009 at 3:03:57 AM

Saber seems oddly popular to me, but in my experience no one seems to really care much about Arc one way or the other.

zeroplusalpha The World Is Mine from behind the 7th Door Since: Apr, 2009
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#96: Nov 19th 2009 at 3:08:08 AM

I liked Arc, and was sad to see her go in her True End.sad

edited 19th Nov '09 3:08:54 AM by zeroplusalpha

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Arilou Taller than Zim from Quasispace Since: Jan, 2001
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#97: Nov 19th 2009 at 3:09:49 AM

Arc was probably my least favourite character in Tsukihime. And Saber my least favourite in FSN.

isn't the choice that affects that.

Although it DOES Lead to an ending where Sakura absorbs Rin into her shadow-form thingie.

edited 19th Nov '09 3:10:36 AM by Arilou

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Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#98: Nov 19th 2009 at 3:12:06 AM

I liked Arc
I didn't mean no one liked her, I meant that she wasn't very many people's favorite character or least favorite character. She ends up in the middle of lists a lot.

catch_the_sun Perpetually Peckish from Shidoni Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Perpetually Peckish
#99: Nov 19th 2009 at 3:12:14 AM

Huh? Really? Cool. The flowchart's not saying a thing about it, though. Of course, since my game's completely screwed itself over and refused to recognise any of my saves, it'll be a while before I get back to Heaven's Feel again. sad

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Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#100: Nov 19th 2009 at 3:14:20 AM

It's extremely easy to skip scenes up to where you were, even if you're forced to start a new game. If you mean that the game doesn't even recognize you've played it before, that's more annoying, but at least you can auto-scroll through text really really fast.

edited 19th Nov '09 3:14:33 AM by Clarste


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