Final Fantasy general

No time, no inspiration and no direction.

With FF games they clearly have a plot in mind and build off that through the game development. Instead they had the character designs and 'open world road trip' idea and built a game around it. All the important details and aspects were a late in development after thought.

Its insanely clear that everything after chapter 9 was entirely an afterthought.

Patch after patch after patch tried to fix it but it flat out needed the XIV treatment and have it all thrown out then rebuilt from scratch.

EDIT: The Multiplayer patch was a very good step in the right direction but my god that needed to be single player and built as a serious game with some exploration. It had actual magic, weapon customization, difficulty, character progression and an actual plot that could have been great with some more focus.

Seriously the Weapon customization was actually really cool, it was XIII's style XP system but depending on what you put in you could change different traits and skills the weapon had and overwrite traits kinda like XIII-2's chocobos. The base game had absolutely none of it and they didn't patch it in at all as well.

Edited by Memers on Feb 8th 2019 at 8:49:44 AM

Never attribute to malice what is adequately explained by incompetence.

Wait do people actually think that it was done through malice?

So far only guy thinks so,which is just silly if you even even the barest understanding of game devolved,to put any game out requires blood,sweat and tears

Me? I think the devs tried the best they could with a project that was already a gigantic trainwreck.

> For everyone who hated FFXV, do you believe that the game was bad out of sheer malice from the devs?

Your post would imply you were looking for someone to agree with you

No, it's a question I asked out of sheer curiosity.

Here's what Naoki Yoshida wants for the next Final Fantasy.

Fucking Yevonite.

But the Machina brought SIN!!!

???

Yoshida wants less machines therefore he is an Al Bhed hater!

Al Bhed, more like Al Dead, amiright?

Slightly off topic, I find it kinda funny that a lot of people single Wakka out as racist when Spira basically divides every race into their own little corner of the world to live in, Luca being the exception.

How often do you see a Ronso around Spira? Exactly.

I don't think the world's that racist. There's someone from every race but the Al Bhed in positions of power among the Yevonites, so I think people just live where they live because that's where they prefer to.

I think Jyscal getting a high ranking position basically only happened through a lot of political movement for his race which was only possible by exiling his family, which is troubling in and of itself. It's been a while since I've reviewed Seymour backstory, though.

As for Kelk, there is this conversation during the Bevelle scenario.

Mika: How fares the Ronso maester?

Seymour: It seems my father’s murder troubles him.

Mika: (Chuckles) Ever the Ronso. Hard-headed, hardly useful.

There also weren't any Ronso or Guado on New Yevon, though admittedly both races are going through stuff at that point in X-2.

Edited by Hobgoblin on Feb 10th 2019 at 3:18:48 AM

Ronso only recently have had a seat in Yevon's inner circle right?

That would seem to be the case.

Yevon's upper echelons were almost entirely corrupt, so one dude's bigotry isn't necessarily common.

There is that bit early on where Lulu or Wakka talk about his blue magic with some contempt but aside from that I don't think anyone else makes a big deal about them.

... and than there's this:

"According to Final Fantasy X Ultimania Omega, both Jyscal, the leader of the Guado, and Kelk, leader of the Ronso, became Maesters of Yevon as part of Grand Maester Yo Mika's "sub-races appeasement policy."

Well shit

Edited by Hashil on Feb 10th 2019 at 4:27:56 AM

See?!

But to address what you said, I don't think everyone was necessarily racist, but the divisions of society did feel a bit unsettling.

And when that falls apart, the Ronso are ready to go to war with the Guado, with Kimahri being the only thing stopping them. Cool.

Well they wanted war because Seymour murdered a ton of them.It was not motivated by some ancient hatred between their peoples.

Seymour's backstory is all about racism though. Everyone hated him for being a human/Guado hybrid.It took Jyscal converting the Guado to Yevon for them to accept Seymour and for humans to accept Guado.

Also the "Ronso/Guado/Al Bhed take care of Ronso/Guado/Al Bhed affairs and it's a rule we can't interfere" is totally racist. Everybody pretty much accepted this idea. Not all racism is flagrant and aggressive like Wakka's.

Hourly reminder that Spira fuckin' sucks.

FFX disguises the dystopia at first, both player and Tidus are likely so caught up in the fantastic world that they fail to notice the severity of everyone's suffering.

Wait is FFX an Isekai.

It's not self-indulgent enough.

FF 8 actually is a "battle school" anime though.

Alice in Wonderland is isekai

and like X was around before Kirito ruined it for everyone