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#51: Oct 25th 2023 at 2:34:33 PM

[up][up] Exactly. I disagree that this thread should close/be locked. Keep it open.

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TargetmasterJoe Since: May, 2013
#52: Oct 25th 2023 at 4:28:26 PM

I question redirecting the A24 show's page to the web pilot's page.

Maybe when we see more of the A24 show, we'll do the thing where we have one folder covering the tropes both of them use and two others for the show exclusively and the pilot exclusively?

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#53: Oct 25th 2023 at 5:39:07 PM

[up] Again, I really doubt Viv will require newcomers to watch a potentially non-canon pilot on a different platform (YouTube) to understand the official show.

Edited by AudioSpeaks2 on Oct 25th 2023 at 8:39:31 PM

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#54: Oct 26th 2023 at 10:15:11 AM

I didn't have to ever watch the Adventure Time pilot to understand the plot and yet all the pilot's tropes are listed on the main Adventure Time page, with all noteworthy discrepancies being covered by Early-Installment Weirdness. We don't have separate pages for pilots or other specifically pre-release material anywhere on the site, really.

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#55: Oct 26th 2023 at 10:22:17 AM

Plus, wasn't Villainous a Web Animation before switching namespaces? Isn't the only reason that Western Animation/Villainous Cartoon Network exists because there are substantial differences? And why are you assuming the pilot is non-canon anyway? It's officially designated "Episode 1—'That's Entertainment'" and details the events of all the characters meeting, like a pilot or first episode would. Someone clearly jumped the gun at formatting here when much simpler alternatives could have taken place, like moving stuff specifically for the Pilot to a Recap page for the show proper.

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Kaiseror Since: Jul, 2016
#56: Oct 26th 2023 at 10:45:07 AM

There's the fact that the web animation thread shares its content will Helluva Boss. Having one here dedicated to Hazbin Hotel should help keep things a bit less cluttered.

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#57: Nov 1st 2023 at 10:44:08 AM

For those talking about the "non-union actors" thing, it could have been a stipulation with the publisher. Maybe A24 is ok with non-union, but maybe the publisher wasn't.

It's been theorized that one of the reason it took awhile to get a trailer is because the show was originally at HBO before the whole Discovery/Max merger and the show might have lost it's publisher for awhile.

If that's the case, it's possible HBO wasn't down for non-union gigs, but that was before things were re-settled at Amazon. Or maybe Amazon in general wasn't down for non-union actors. It's all speculation.

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#58: Nov 1st 2023 at 12:18:20 PM

[up] From what I've heard, it's generally up to the studio on whether its okay if a union work has non-union leads. I've heard some people claim that Vivziepop just wanted an excuse to cast Broadway actors she liked, but there seems to be a subset of people determined to badmouth her for any real or perceived failings, so I don't know.

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#59: Nov 1st 2023 at 7:18:01 PM

But she's been casting Broadway people in Helluva Boss...? That seems mostly unrelated to the union/non-union thing?

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#60: Nov 1st 2023 at 7:22:39 PM

…Well, is Richard Horvitz union?

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TargetmasterJoe Since: May, 2013
#61: Nov 1st 2023 at 7:47:30 PM

[up] Good question? His stuff is usually western animation and western-made video games, but I think there are times where he'd pop up in an anime under a pseudonym. (I distinctly recall him being in an episode of Dragon Ball Super.)

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#62: Nov 2nd 2023 at 9:02:59 AM

I’m pretty sure HB is union, unlike HH’s pilot.

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#63: Nov 6th 2023 at 6:06:47 PM

I'm definitely curious as to what character interpretation of the Devil Vivzie's Lucifer will be. We know he's evil but not totally evil given his hinted at Parents as People dynamic and being Happily Married to Llith. wild mass guessI hope he serves as the cynic Foil to the optimistic Charlie

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#64: Nov 6th 2023 at 7:27:00 PM

[up] I always thought Alastor would be the cynical foil to Charlie.


For some reason, I'm expecting some of the characters we meet in heaven to be LGBTQ, mostly to show that neither heaven nor hell in this show discriminates based on orientation, just behavior.

Edited by AudioSpeaks2 on Nov 9th 2023 at 10:01:25 PM

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#65: Nov 9th 2023 at 5:26:46 PM

[up]Everything about Gabriel Ultrakill—*Ahem* Adam and Lute's dynamic seems like they'll be gay together.

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#67: Nov 11th 2023 at 6:15:07 AM

Is there wiki policy regarding if someone pre-orders the first two episodes and starts troping them, even if there's no way to verify the accuracy of what they write without doing it as well?

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#68: Nov 11th 2023 at 9:49:07 AM

Wait, they're out already?

Anyway, I think it'd be fine, since multiple people would do so and you could cross-check with them. I believe several works that had early screenings had this happen to.

Edited by Purgatoryisof2 on Nov 11th 2023 at 12:49:50 PM

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#69: Nov 27th 2023 at 8:08:15 AM

Deadline gave us a release date: January 19.

https://deadline.com/2023/11/hazbin-hotel-premiere-date-prime-video-guest-cast-trailer-1235635095/

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Kaiseror Since: Jul, 2016
#70: Nov 27th 2023 at 9:38:44 AM

It also gave us the supporting cast: Darren Criss (Saint Peter), Jeremy Jordan (Lucifer Morningstar), Daphne Rubin-Vega (Carmilla Carmine), Patina Miller (Sera), and Jessica Vosk (Lute).

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#72: Dec 8th 2023 at 3:17:11 PM

Hail, friends. I notice in the character page that Sir Pentious was moved. It seems like he's going to be a recurring character, but do we actually know whether he will be a hotel resident or just a Goldfish Poop Gang that drops by on occasion to get Alastored?

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#73: Dec 12th 2023 at 8:21:56 AM

The official poster has been revealed. Also, there's apparently going to be a new trailer tomorrow. I guess we now have something to update the main page with.

Edited by Kaiseror on Dec 12th 2023 at 3:18:38 AM

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#74: Dec 12th 2023 at 1:47:25 PM

[up] Weirdly enough, I prefer the old poster for showing more characters.

But this would make the page up to date with the official, post-pilot art style.

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#75: Dec 12th 2023 at 1:49:55 PM

Just remember to do it officially. There’s actually a lot of slots open in Image Picking right now.

Edited by BigBadShadow25 on Dec 12th 2023 at 4:50:44 AM

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