Punishing: Gray Raven

Unfortunately I can't give much guidance about the control scheme as I still use my weird mouse keyboard hybrid approach, using keyboard for basic movement, attacking, and dodging and the mouse to ping orbs / trigger QT Es.

As for the gacha selector ticket, the general advice is to wait until you hit pity on the beginner banner so you don't get a duplicate (which are still useful, but not as useful as two different S ranks when you're starting out).

Edited by Minus0 on May 16th 2023 at 8:39:57 AM

This is so much more fluid than the emulator, holy crap. Now the controller doesn’t help much to navigate the menus since they weren’t designed for it, but at least there’s no longer this weird delay when you click the buttons. Dodging and basic attacks also feel much more responsive.

Only complaint I have is that there are only 8 orbs max now instead of 9… Dunno if there’s a way to fix that…

Also we got a whole bunch of PPC skulls offered for some reason so on top of SS-ing my Empyrea I also got like 20 fragments for Nanamech. That’s gonna help.

And now it’s Nanami time! You’d better not make her suffer, Kuro Game. >=(

Okay, just read the first act of Chapter XVIII where we learn that the Empyrea project failed and subsequent projects turned the Earth into a frozen wasteland, killing what remained of humanity.

Yeah, not the best result. >.>

Fortunately, Nanami will save everyone it seems. Well, everyone not made of flesh.

As for Nanamech, she’s incredibly fun to play (especially with her Chinese voice)… but the way she pilots her mecha is also incredibly distracting, especially if you’ve watched DARLING in the FRANXX.

Yeah, Nanami is... yeah.

Just finished Chapter 3, steadily chugging along. I've heard grumblings that the first eight chapters were just "meh" before it gets really good in Ch.8, and I'm not quite seeing it? They seem to perform an essential duty setting up the world and conflict.

Meanwhile, I'll continue Entry Pimping the main page.

Edited by erazor0707 on May 25th 2023 at 6:02:56 AM

My memory of the early chapters is fuzzy, but I mostly remember a crapton of technobabble and strategic rambling that weren’t particularly engaging, and the focus was mostly on the Gray Ravens, which I found to be the least interesting characters. There was interesting worldbuilding, though, that’s true (including some plot points introduced in chapter 1 that would pay off waaay later).

Have you read some of the Interludes yet?

PS: I checked out Kuro’s previous game by curiosity and, uhm… yeah.

Edited by Lyendith on May 25th 2023 at 1:25:26 PM

I have not done Interludes. Work eat into my free time a lot.

They do feel a little vanilla, but I smirked at Lee and Vera getting catty with one another (why does this Vera model look perpetually high? )

Oh man, you’re gonna like Vera. Interludes are the most interesting part of the early story if you ask me. I don’t know if you have pulled Alpha yet, but reading her Interlude is very important to understand her character.

Anyway, in the Star Rail thread someone brought up the terrible design of the character page for this game, and I agree that we should do something about it.

Honestly I think we should just copy the method used for the Honkai pages − classify the characters by faction and bolden the name when the character is playable.

Edited by Lyendith on May 29th 2023 at 2:41:12 PM

So, like…

Babylonia

• Gray Ravens
• Strike Hawks
• Cerberus

The Punishing

• Ascendants

Something like that?

Yeah, basically. Maybe…

Babylonia

• Gray Ravens
  • Commandant
  • Lucia
  • Liv
  • Lee
• Strike Hawks
  • Chrome
  • Kamui
  • Wanshi
• Cerberus
  • Vera
  • No. 21
  • Noctis
• Egrets
  • Vanessa
  • Bombinata
• World Government Association of Arts
  • Ayla
  • Selena
• Command and other humans
  • Hassen
  • Nikola
  • Celica
  • Asimov
  • Murray
  • John Smith

Factions on Earth

• Arctic Route Union and Forest Guards
  • Rosetta
  • Diana
  • Derek
  • Atiel
  • Amberia
• Akdilek Commercial Alliance
  • Jamilah
  • Aston
  • Sophia
  • Changyu
• Atlantis (Lustrous)
• Kowloong Chamber of Commerce
  • Qu
  • Villier
  • Pulao
  • Huaxu
  • Yazi
  • Huainan
• The Punishing Virus and the Corrupted
• The Ascendants
  • Luna
  • Alpha
  • Roland
  • Gabriel
  • Lamia
  • Vonnegut
  • The Merciful One
  • Cinderelik
• The Church of Machina
• Others (Watanabe and the Forsaken, Nanami and friends)

Edited by Lyendith on May 29th 2023 at 3:34:40 PM

Sounds good. I'll add that to my to-do list.

EDIT: And in the main character index, we can move there the "In General" stuff about Constructs and Transcendents (or move them to the main workspace).

Edited by erazor0707 on May 29th 2023 at 9:19:03 AM

Okay, so. Sorry to doublepost, but in lieu of , I made a sandbox with the express goal of restructuring everything so that it's more modern.

Punishing Gray Raven Characters

Everyone, feel free to modify it however. I don't know the deeper details of the story and characters, so really, I'm just here to help organize things so it's prettier lol.

Some groups of characters I noticed will have to stay together due to lack of bytes (see "Other Earth Factions" and "Command and Others" for example). I imagine that'll eventually change as the entries are pimped out.

What do you the rest of you think? Once the main index is settled on, we'll start moving characters to the appropriate subpage.

Edited by erazor0707 on May 29th 2023 at 11:45:25 AM

Yeah, we probably don’t need a separate page for every single faction. Maybe we can separate between those that are mostly human (ACU, Akdilek, Kowloong, Atlantis) and the exclusively non-human ones (Ascendants, Machina, Observers)?

And put the non-Gray Raven squads under a single page.

Edited by Lyendith on May 29th 2023 at 6:48:44 PM

That works.

EDIT: If no one has amended all that later, I'll spare some time to do so tonight.

EDIT 2: Annnnnd done.

Edited by erazor0707 on May 29th 2023 at 8:49:48 AM

Nice, thanks for doing that. I'd agree this format is a lot more pleasing to the eye than what we had before.

Cool. If everyone's all right with the sandbox, then we can start making the changes for real.

Alright, I’ll prepare sandboxes for the individual pages.

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Sandbox/PunishingGrayRavenGrayRavens https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Sandbox/PunishingGrayRavenSquads https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Sandbox/PunishingGrayRavenBabyloniaCommandAndOthers

Edited by Lyendith on May 30th 2023 at 6:23:19 PM

Okay, so concerning the beautification of the pages above , I've pretty much done all I can. Added images, tried to beef up descriptions, but since I'm taking my time to enjoy the stories at my own pace as a newcomer, there's only so much I can do.

Doesn't help PGR is niche. Google hides so much of its information, or it's all contained in the game.

Speaking of, I've hit Lv. 73 and unlocked a lot of its modes and such... That's a lot. But I appreciate Kuro Games's generosity. All that free Stamina was handy for Cosmic Glow, and that gave me a lot of 6* Memories for my Constructs.

Edited by erazor0707 on Jun 12th 2023 at 8:17:38 AM

I just completed the Evernight Beat chapter, which means I have now caught up to Surviving Lucem, which was the latest chapter when I picked up this game. Now I'm aching for a rematch against the unidentified Pokémon: Absorption and Beauty after seeing them beat the crud out of Liv.

Prepare some tissues, just in case.

So here are the full reworked pages:

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Sandbox/PunishingGrayRavenGrayRavens https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Sandbox/PunishingGrayRavenSquads https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Sandbox/PunishingGrayRavenBabyloniaCommandAndOthers

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Sandbox/PunishingGrayRavenHumanFactions

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Sandbox/PunishingGrayRavenNonHumanFactions

I moved the Forsaken to Human Factions and Nanami to Non-Human (even if she’s technically closer to the human side in motivations). There are still characters like Luna, Pulao or Selena who need some work because they have two separate entries in the current format.

By the way, now that I think of it the Transcendant/Uniframe category doesn’t seem to make much sense in-game… You have the frames who fit the lore definition like Camu or Qu (constructs who can survive in deadzones without being linked to the Ascnet), Roland who is an Ascendant and hasn’t completely broken off from the Ascnet, Selena who is unaccounted for, Pulao who is a completely normal contruct for all we know, and Haicma who is a full machine.

Edited by Lyendith on Jun 13th 2023 at 1:33:22 PM

Probably just meld the "separate but same" entries into one.

Since you moved Nanami and the Forsaken, I'll just get rid of Independent Factions in the main index.

Edited by erazor0707 on Jun 13th 2023 at 9:05:10 AM

Well that was quite the Trauma Conga Line Liv endured. To start off... After the twins kicked everyone's asses, Liv had to tend to way more wounded than she could handle, some of whom died rather unfair deaths. This only motivates her to try harder, assuming she was ready for the price. She was wrong, and now she's definitely not going to identify herself the same way anymore even after Lucia and the Commandant save her.

On a side note, I'm surprised that some NPC from Fake Ascension gets to become a Construct. Was he something of a Breakout Character in the community? I hope Mr. Nugget lets him keep the rainbow hair he asked for LOL.

Huh, which character is that? Can’t remember…

As for Her Last Bow… That’s some heavy weight Nanami is putting on her small shoulders. It’s quite fascinating to see the way the machine’s Awakening led to some of them losing their marbles because they gained sentience but lack some core concept that keep humans… relatively sane and not entirely destructive. Zero (or her simulation) ended up becoming a monster but in an almost tragic way. She can’t fathom why her Messiah doesn’t approve of her but can’t deviate from her twisted logic.

I was referring to Shrek. He let himself go off Akdilek's train to try and blow up the twins, arguing that he'll somehow live to become a Construct.

…Oh! I’d completely forgotten about him. >.> Even though he has a name that’s not exactly easy to forget.

Edited by Lyendith on Jun 17th 2023 at 10:24:12 AM

Shocking news, Kuro Game actually made a fun event mini-game!

And in typical PGR fashion, Panini Disco’s hard mode is pretty brutal. Well, the first two or three levels not so much, but Holy Moonlight kicks my ass.