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Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
Hey, say what you want about Blanky Mc Blankerson, but you gotta admit, they have the best greeting. (Yes, this is what comes up when you click the button next to the blank).
Seriously though, that's bizarre.
This also reminds me that us new heralds never got our badges. RIP.
Edited by WarJay77 on Jan 25th 2021 at 1:03:48 PM
Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
Like, is there or has there been a herald for World Building? Or there was never one to begin with? It's very strange, considering all other subforums have their positions occupied.
Susjection!
Speaking of missing heralds, Brainulator9's last edit was on May 26th, 2020, and their last forum post was on June 12th, 2020. I haven't seen them anywhere since, so I think they've gone completely inactive. Does this mean Short Term Projects needs a new herald?
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
I don't think so. All we really do is send out automatic PMs. It's very rare for anyone to actually reply to the PM and even more rare for that PM to be something we have to respond to.
Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
(Just reminding that there is a dedicated herald thread, so this discussion's better there)
Redmess
I agree that bans (temporary or otherwise) for people who panic too easily is a better response than a lock.
Optimism is a duty.
A procrastination in of itself
I feel that the problem isn’t just the people who panic easily, it’s also the people who push the conversation towards talking about worst-case hypotheticals.
Even if all the panicky people were removed the thread still won’t be conductive to health conversation if we keep having tangents around ideas like permanent lockdown.
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
Redmess
I hope it wasn't me. I tend to go on tangents sometimes, but I don't mean to fan the flames or anything.
Optimism is a duty.
Maybe a cooldown lock? Permalock may be a bit extreme, but locking it for a few days or a week and firmly stating why might help get everyone's heads straight.
Redmess
I don't think that is really necessary any more, things have already cooled down and moved on.
Optimism is a duty.
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Not really? Maybe it's not as bad now, but it's just gonna happen again unless something is done.
Redmess
I think that as long as the mods calm things down, it will be fine.
Optimism is a duty.
You're probably right.
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
And locking the thread temporarily might be a valid way to cool things down; force everyone to stop talking and thinking about it for a bit (at least on here) and open it back up after enough of the "cool down" period has passed. A few days at most should be all that's needed to get the message across. Sometimes the best way to calm things down is just to walk away.
Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
A procrastination in of itself
If people had been breaking established rules I’d agree on that, but right now the thread doesn’t have explicit rules about dragging the conversation into unsubstantiated hypotheticals.
My hope is that if that was made an explicit rule the thread would stabilise and be okay.
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
Now a lurker. Thanks for everything. | he/him
Hey I was one of the people who got panicky on that thread. I took a temporary hiatus and I'm back early and feeling a bit better. Here's the question—since I apologized and will not try to panic people again, could I (or anyone else who makes genuine efforts to be calmer after that) still be banned for having made things worse?
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Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
Typically, the mods seem to suspend people to force them to listen and change their behavior. If you've already realized and want to make an effort to improve, I think you should be fine.
Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
Now a lurker. Thanks for everything. | he/him
Thanks, good to know. I think I'll just avoid this and the other thread, too drama-filled for my sanity.
Redmess
Can a mod weigh in on the Covid thread?
Optimism is a duty.
I think they already did.
A procrastination in of itself
I believe Red’s post was made before the mod action.
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
Don't want to leave but cannot pretend
May I please request for the removal of the sticky in the "Fire Emblem" thread? I think, long before now, we've managed to keep extensive Fire Emblem: Three Houses talk in the proper thread so the sticky seems unnecessary at this point.
Trans rights are human rights. TV Tropes is not a place for bigotry, cruelty, or dickishness, no matter who or their position.
Can mods "un-thump" posts, or are they stuck like that permanently? This isn't about any particular post, I was just curious if mods have that ability.
Lost in Space
My apologies if this is not the proper thread for this, but I would like to bring your attention to this herald list
(I couldn't find the proper herald forum). It has a missing herald for the World Building subforum. Any idea what's going on? Or has that list been outdated for a long while?