And just because I wasn't clear on it myself, the first five half-hours are on Disney+.
And even then, the last few episodes aren't particularly dark either. It all goes a bit "cheesy action movie, played for laughs" toward the end.
I think the darkest Ducktales 2017 ever got was with Lena's backstory and situation with Magica, and that was limited to the occasional A Day in the Limelight episode.
"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.Plus that Spear of Selene drama that comes up in the first two seasons.
Well, based on what I saw of the recent episodes, I can see the season progressing out in two ways, in terms of the final conflict for the season.
There was the ghost in episode two that frightened Reuben Chen so badly that he roped in his entire family into his trauma to search down ghosts or the stinger from the 2nd half of episode five where Bizmart coming to Brighton and begins disrupting/gentrifying the local area (this feels like the Muzzler plot from Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur).
For the first one, I can see that this will come to a head, where Ollie learns that there is such a thing as good and bad ghosts. Maybe that Molly was one time a ghost will help him understand that. That probably will then trickle to the rest of the Chens because this is the kind of show that wouldn't let another group of well-meaning, but otherwise misguided, people stay the antagonists. I can also see it as the Chens learning to be more discerning between good ghosts and bad ghosts, while still keeping their skills as ghost hunters relevant.
For the second one, Bizmart becomes this season's Chairman, the overarching misery that hangs over the season, which is defeated at the climax. Because since it's also a human plot, rather than a ghost one, it can include everyone not in on The Masquerade. It would be a souped up version of this episode's plot, where not only is it closing down businesses, but also the local scenery slowly shifts. The town will care, because it's their town. The Davenports will care, because they're no longer the biggest fish in the pond. Ollie will care, because he cares about engoodifying the world, and understands the destruction to local culture that big corporations can do when they move in.
But will see how this all plays out.
That never gets particularly dark, though. It's just a mystery.
"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.until they revealed Della was a alive but stranded on the moon it was kinda dark assuming she might have perished going into space
New theme music also a boxI think the closest that storyline ever gets to being told in a dark way is in the episode where we see what actually happened to Della, which has an offscreen moment where she has to cut off her own leg. And even that is a good example of how Disney show's avoid Cerebus Syndrome: it's a darker episode, and then the show happily goes back to silly gags and business as usual. Like two minutes later we get a goofball sequence where Della tries to jump all the way from the moon to the Earth, and much of the rest of the episode is Della having a humorous classic-Donald-short style feud with a space monster.
For the rest of the arc, it never gets too far beyond "mysterious, but quirky and madcap." Like, first season of Gravity Falls.
Edited by KnownUnknown on Apr 7th 2023 at 10:04:23 AM
"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.I mean it still produced a lot of drama (that was what I meant when I said dark) in episodes like Last Crash of the Sunchaser.
So, how would one draw a line between Amphibia, Gravity Falls, Owl House, DuckTales 2017, and Star vs from Big City Greens, Molly McGee, and Hamster & Gretel?
I mean the first group is shown to be more focused on arcs and character development with more moments of drama while the second group is focused more on comedy first and foremost, so how do you all draw that line between the two groups?
and Wander Over Yonder!
Everyone forgets about Wander Over Yonder.
Edited by megaeliz on Apr 7th 2023 at 4:09:51 AM
Starting to realize how much talent Gravity Falls has fostered, with Dana and Matt on Amphibia and Owl House and all. Those along with Molly Mc Gee put Disney animated shows in a really good place right now.
I found the 5 episodes on the DisneyNOW app. So they are relatively available to some cable viewers lacking Disney+. Here are my thoughts on Episode 2 Season 2: A side:Story Sprite is the lovable kind of OP the show keeps doing. Also Reuben's backstory boils down to "A bad thing happened to me. I think it was supernatural. I will prove it was ghosts and that they are malevolent!" Fair reminder that kooks come in all different flavors. B Side: If I had a nickel for every cartoon main character played by Michaela Dietz who goes through an episode involving insecurity over their characterization features, I'd have two nickels.
You know, part of me suspects that the big twist about the Chens is that it wasn't actually a ghost that attacked Ruben. Or that Ruben's whole backstory is just something he made up for whatever reason. No real proof of that—I just got a feeling that things aren't going to be that straightforward.
New Chibi Tiny Tales!
Season 2 episode 3: A Side: Sharon there's a reason most art people use drafts. Measure twice cut once if what your using is valuable. There's no shame to using pencil and paper before paints. Abstract artwork sometimes follows those rules too. Side B: Heist Episode and lore. Who could ask for more? And as for who that child that moved away was, I think city hall might have an answer through paperwork as they may or may not have their taxes.
Cant believe they mentioned the Dark Web on a kids show.
..already happened in Wreck it Ralph 2
New theme music also a box100% Molly Mc Gee, while I personally can’t relate to the subject matter, looks like it’ll really strike a chord with mixed-race people.
“Now! Let us engage in the art of deduction!”I’d say it also resonates with people who feel disconnected or alienated from their birth/ancestral culture. I’m reminded of the King of the Hill episode “Orange You Glad I Did Say Banana?” where Kahn tries to be more traditionally Laotian after being called a “banana” by some of his fellow Laotians. As a Hong Kong-born Canadian who cannot speak or read Chinese and has many relatives in China I can barely communicate with, I think I’ll really be able to relate to Molly.
Edited by MagnusForce on Apr 20th 2023 at 12:45:50 PM
"Detecting trace amounts of mental activity. Possibly a dead weasel or a cartoon viewer"So is Andrea aware of Scratch's existence yet?
Not at the moment, no. Andrea probably knows that ghost exists, seeing as she has been part of several ghost frights already, but she hasn't been shown to be personally aware of Scratch. Once a ghost voluntarily reveals themselves and that they're consciously aware of it, they can see all ghosts, instead of just those that purposely reveal themselves through hauntings and Andrea doesn't have that awareness yet.
It seems like it has to be purposeful revealing, instead of just awareness of their existence, since Ollie knows Scratch now exists, but still needs his ghost gear to see him.
Eh, half-half, the series was still mostly lighthearted and it was only in the last stretch of FOWL episodes that it actually became darker for keeps
"Bingo! If two species hate each other, they will wipe each other out on their own."