Okay, not sure if this is the right place, but here goes...
I'd noticed for a while that the page for Sonic the Hedgehog (SatAM) seemed to have a massive Sinkhole problem with a large majority of the written examples being unnecessarily linked to other pages on the site, images off the site, youtube videos and in one case an MP3 music file. This had gotten to the point where you could see entire sentences that were Blue-Linked.
So on the 20th of August I spent some time removing the Sinkholes.
Only on the 21st it seems Eagle70 who appears to have been the one who first added the Sinkholes. Both to the page as it is currently, and back a few months ago when the page wasWesternAnimation.Sonic Sat AM. Has re-added all of them.
The reason that they've given is that they feel those links gave clarity to the examples, and that removing them turns them into Zero-Context Examples. Except that reading the examples they still understandable without the links, and in most case the links don't provide anymore context than what was written.
Also if the examples require going to another page or off-site entirely in order to understand the example, then that just strikes me as poorly written and I'm fairly certain violates Weblinks Are Not Examples.
Also some of the Sinkhole aren't even being used correctly, for example several times when an example has talked about two characters being similar in personality to one another they've linked it to Not So Different, except Not So Different is an In-Universe Examples Only trope where in the characters within the work openly acknowledge the similarities - something which doesn't seem to be occurring in any of the example that they've linked that trope to.
In another example I removed a link to I Am Not Shazam because it's talking about fans assuming some character names that were changed for Archie Comics' Sonic the Hedgehog are actually from this show, when I Am Not Shazam is supposed to be when people incorrectly assume a work has a Character Title and call the main character by the title even if they have a completely different name.
They added back the I Am Not Shazam example with this edit reason:
(Also, I Am Not Shazam covers more than just character/title confusion - people assuming that the title of the work is the name of the main character is just a common example).
I Am Not Shazam is when people incorrectly assume a work has a Character Title and call the main character by the title even if they have a completely different name. Tropers often assume the page is about any character who is known by an incorrect name regardless of whether or not the false name is the work title or not.
Anyway I took originally took this to Ask The Tropers, but one of the Moderators has said that the issue is a not a troper issue, but rather a page repair issue. Which is why I've brought it here.
Okay, not sure if this is the right place, but here goes...
I'd noticed for a while that the page for Sonic the Hedgehog (SatAM) seemed to have a massive Sinkhole problem with a large majority of the written examples being unnecessarily linked to other pages on the site, images off the site, youtube videos and in one case an MP3 music file. This had gotten to the point where you could see entire sentences that were Blue-Linked.
So on the 20th of August I spent some time removing the Sinkholes.
Only on the 21st it seems Eagle70
who appears to have been the one who first added the Sinkholes. Both to the page as it is currently, and back a few months ago when the page was
WesternAnimation.Sonic Sat AM. Has re-added all of them.
The reason that they've given is that they feel those links gave clarity to the examples, and that removing them turns them into Zero-Context Examples. Except that reading the examples they still understandable without the links, and in most case the links don't provide anymore context than what was written.
Also if the examples require going to another page or off-site entirely in order to understand the example, then that just strikes me as poorly written and I'm fairly certain violates Weblinks Are Not Examples.
There's also the fact that several tropes they've linked to include YMMV items like Broken Base, Seasonal Rot, Suspiciously Similar Song, Ethnic Scrappy, I Am Not Shazam etc. that should be included on the main page as it's supposed to be collecting objective trope examples only.
Also some of the Sinkhole aren't even being used correctly, for example several times when an example has talked about two characters being similar in personality to one another they've linked it to Not So Different, except Not So Different is an In-Universe Examples Only trope where in the characters within the work openly acknowledge the similarities - something which doesn't seem to be occurring in any of the example that they've linked that trope to.
In another example I removed a link to I Am Not Shazam because it's talking about fans assuming some character names that were changed for Archie Comics' Sonic the Hedgehog are actually from this show, when I Am Not Shazam is supposed to be when people incorrectly assume a work has a Character Title and call the main character by the title even if they have a completely different name.
They added back the I Am Not Shazam example with this edit reason:
Despite Square Peg, Round Trope saying this:
I had thought they might be ban-evading as well, since their edits seem similar to that of EggoManiac
who had previously edited WesternAnimation.Sonic Sat AM in the same manner, and was reported for issues
with Example Indentation and Natter, but apparently that's not the case
.
Anyway I took originally took this to Ask The Tropers, but one of the Moderators has said that the issue is a not a troper issue, but rather a page repair issue. Which is why I've brought it here.