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Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#5276: Dec 22nd 2020 at 7:35:55 AM

That's actually where I live. Thankfully, I live far enough away from the capitol building that I didn't see any of it, and only heard about it from my brother.

This is pretty worrying, though.

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#5277: Dec 22nd 2020 at 8:21:56 PM

https://fulcrum.sg/how-the-milk-tea-alliance-has-succeeded-and-why-it-may-fail/

A Fulcrum commentary on how the Milk Tea Alliance can fail in the long run.

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Ominae Organized Canine Bureau Special Agent Since: Jul, 2010
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#5278: Dec 28th 2020 at 9:15:03 PM

A Vice video —> WTF is Antifa?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZIIpQ8hQyY

Decided to put the URL instead since the embededed vid doesn't work on the short doc on what Antifa is...

Edited by Ominae on Dec 30th 2020 at 8:34:07 AM

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#5279: Dec 29th 2020 at 6:27:44 AM

Video Is Age restricted for the Video Link.

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#5280: Dec 29th 2020 at 6:49:34 AM

Also bear in mind that there are rules about dropping links with zero or minimal context note . A forum equivalent of Weblinks Are Not Examples, if you will.

Edited by sgamer82 on Dec 29th 2020 at 6:58:21 AM

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#5282: Jan 5th 2021 at 9:37:33 PM

Leaking into 2021 as a rather inverse turn of events, Trump supporters and the Proud Boys are fighting against the Washington D.C. police near Black Lives Matter Plaza. The police are trying to prevent them from entering the area.

eagleoftheninth In the name of being honest from the Street without Joy Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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Ominae Organized Canine Bureau Special Agent Since: Jul, 2010
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#5285: Jan 13th 2021 at 6:14:41 PM

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-55656138

King Philippe's car was caught in a riot in Belgium.

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#5286: Jan 14th 2021 at 6:51:39 AM

That guy with the cigarette hanging from his mouth!

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eagleoftheninth In the name of being honest from the Street without Joy Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#5287: Jan 14th 2021 at 9:18:38 PM

L.A. police captain who testified in Rodney King case will serve as expert witness in George Floyd trial.

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A retired Los Angeles police captain who testified that officers didn't use excessive force when they beat Rodney King in 1991 is expected to be called as a defense expert witness in the killing of George Floyd.

Attorney Earl Gray, who is representing former Minneapolis officer Thomas Lane, filed notice Thursday that he plans to call Greg Meyer as a use-of-force expert witness at his client's Aug. 23 trial.

Meyer is also an expert on police training, intervention, detention and arrests, said Gray's filing, which included Meyer's 37-page resume.

Gray did not return a message seeking comment. Meyer declined to comment when reached by phone Thursday at his Los Angeles-area home.

Meyer worked for L.A. police from 1976 to 2006 and testified at a 1994 federal civil trial in the King case that came after the state's criminal trial against four officers charged with beating King.

Meyer has been critical of bans on "neck restraint holds" and "upper-body control" holds, also known as "chokeholds."

Floyd died May 25 after former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin knelt on his neck for more than nine minutes while former colleagues J. Alexander Kueng and Lane pinned the rest of Floyd's body stomach-down in the street. Former officer Tou Thao controlled an angry crowd nearby. All four were fired.

Meyer raised questions about the efficacy of neck restraint bans during a 2014 appearance on a National Public Radio show on Eric Garner, who was killed after a New York City police officer put him in a chokehold.

"Now you have a big gap in the use-of-force process," Meyer said about such bans. "What are you going to fill that with? Well, it got filled [in L.A.] with the night stick."

In 1991 Los Angeles police officers were trying to stop King, who was unarmed, for speeding when he fled. They used stun guns and beat him with batons following a high-speed chase. Bystander video of the King incident seen around the world stirred concerns about race and policing. King was Black.

In 1992, jurors in the state's case acquitted the officers, leading to several days of riots in L.A. and other cities. The officers were tried in federal court in 1993 on charges that they violated King's civil rights. Two were convicted and received prison time; two were acquitted.

Meyer testified in a third trial that occurred in 1994 — a federal civil trial to determine whether the city and, independently, the officers — owed King financial compensation. It was there that he testified that the officers did not use excessive force because of police policy.

Jurors awarded King $3.8 million from the city but decided that the officers did not owe punitive damages.

"The jury learned … that the roots of the King beating were to be found in poor policy which encouraged Los Angeles police officers who encountered resisting suspects to hit them with metal pipes ('police batons,' if one prefers to minimize the impact)," Meyer wrote in a 1994 opinion piece.

In a different opinion piece published that year in the L.A. Times, Meyer blamed the City Council and board of police commissioners for taking "so-called chokeholds" out of "routine use," priming officers to use their batons instead.

"How could the jury hold the officers personally accountable for the results of such a poor policy process?" Meyer wrote.

Meyer implored the public to demand "more rational" policies from their police and urged police to "adopt a more humane use of force on a scale."

"If we can put a man on the moon and return him safely to Earth, why can't we put a man on the ground and take him safely to jail?" Meyer wrote.

Meyer has served as an expert witness in several cases.

The use of outside experts by both defense attorneys and prosecutors is common practice in trials, and retired officers from other agencies are regularly called to assess use of force, training and policies in officer-involved shooting cases.

Kueng's attorney, Thomas Plunkett, also filed notice Thursday that he planned to call retired Missouri police officer Steve Ijames as an expert witness. Ijames testified for the defense in the 2020 trial of Washington County Sheriff's Deputy Brian Krook.

Krook shot 23-year-old Benjamin Evans, who was intoxicated, suicidal and armed with a gun, in 2018 without warning while a colleague continued negotiations with Evans in Lake Elmo.

Ijames testified that had Krook warned Evans, it would have sounded like a threat instead. Krook was acquitted of second-degree manslaughter.

Lane, Kueng and Thao are each charged with aiding and abetting murder and manslaughter and will be tried together. Chauvin is charged with second-degree murder and manslaughter in the case scheduled to begin March 8.

Staff librarian John Wareham contributed to this report.

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#5288: Jan 15th 2021 at 9:31:45 AM

New Bond Conditions Requested for Kyle Rittenhouse After Teen Was Seen Drinking and Flashing ‘White Power’ Signs With Proud Boys

On Jan. 5, Kyle Rittenhouse—the teen accused of fatally shooting two people and wounding a third during a protest in Kenosha, Wisc., last August over the police shooting of Jacob Blake—was arraigned and pleaded not guilty to two felony homicide charges and one felony charge of attempted homicide.

About an hour and a half later, Rittenhouse was seen at a Wisconsin bar with his mother. Surveillance video confirms Rittenhouse was also seen at the bar posing for photos with other white people throwing up a known “white power” symbol. Prosecutors are now seeking to have his bond conditions modified.

CNN reports that prosecutors have requested that the Kenosha County Circuit Court prohibit Rittenhouse from possessing or consuming alcohol, associating with the Proud Boys or other known white supremacists and publicly displaying signs, symbols or hand gestures that reference white power or white supremacy.

smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#5289: Jan 15th 2021 at 10:37:25 AM

It’s disgusting how lenient they’ve been with these white supremacist terrorists.

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#5290: Jan 15th 2021 at 3:50:59 PM

Wow, a special kind of stupid. He is going to get what he deserves.

I mean fresh out of court and already demonstrating how quickly he needs to get put into a cell.

Whatever happened to the asshat who gave him the gun?

Edited by TuefelHundenIV on Jan 15th 2021 at 5:52:54 AM

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TheWildWestPyro from Seattle, WA Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
#5291: Jan 21st 2021 at 1:16:46 AM

Protests continue in Portland with federal agents using tear gas.

    Article 
Protesters who spent months in the streets over racial injustice and inequality said they don’t expect immediate change from President Biden, who they declared “will not save us.”

By Mike Baker and Hallie Golden

PORTLAND, Ore. — Protesters in the Pacific Northwest smashed windows at a Democratic Party headquarters, marched through the streets and burned an American flag on Wednesday in a strident challenge by antifascist and racial-justice protesters to the new administration of President Biden, whose promised reforms, they declared, “won’t save us.”

In Portland, Ore., lines of federal agents in camouflage — now working under the Biden administration — blanketed streets with tear gas and unleashed volleys of welt-inducing pepper balls as they confronted a crowd that gathered outside an Immigration and Customs Enforcement building near downtown. Some in the crowd later burned a Biden-for-President flag in the street.

Another tense protest in Seattle saw dozens of people push their way through the streets, with some breaking windows, spray-painting anarchist insignia and chanting not only about ICE, but the many other issues that roiled America’s streets last year under the administration of former President Donald J. Trump.

“No Cops, Prisons, Borders, Presidents,” said one banner, while another proclaimed that the conflict over racial justice, policing, immigration and corporate influence in the country was “not over” merely because a new president had been inaugurated in Washington, D.C.

“A Democratic administration is not a victory for oppressed people,” said a flier handed out during the demonstrations, during which protesters also smashed windows at a shop often described as the original Starbucks in downtown Seattle. The communiqués used expletives to condemn Mr. Biden and “his stupid” crime bill, passed in 1994 and blamed for mass incarcerations in the years since.

Hours after the inauguration of Mr. Biden, federal agents in Portland used tear gas and other crowd-control munitions to disperse demonstrators who had gathered to protest the harsh arrest and detention practices wielded by federal immigration authorities under the Trump administration.

Mr. Biden has signaled that immigration is going to be a key issue of his presidency, using some of his first executive orders on Wednesday to end construction of the border wall and bolster the program that provides deportation protections for undocumented immigrants who were brought into the country as children.

The conflict in Portland capped a day of demonstrations in the liberal city, where different groups of protesters either decried Mr. Biden or called for activism to pressure the new president to take forceful action on immigration, climate change, health care, racial justice and income inequality.

Earlier in the day, a group of about 200 people — a mix of racial justice, antifascist and anarchist activists — marched to the local Democratic Party headquarters, where some of them smashed windows and tipped over garbage containers, lighting the contents of one on fire. “We don’t want Biden — we want revenge,” said one sign, referring to killings committed by police officers.

In a city that has seen months of demonstrations over racial injustice, economic inequality, federal law enforcement and corporate power — and some of the harshest law enforcement responses to such protests — protesters have vowed to continue their actions no matter who is president. “We are ungovernable,” one sign in the crowd said.

In Seattle, about 150 people marched through the streets. Some spray-painted buildings with an anarchist symbol and broke windows, including at a federal courthouse. They chanted both anti-Trump and anti-Biden slogans.

One member of the group handed out fliers to people on the street that said, “Biden won! And so did corporate elites!” The fliers explained that a “Democratic administration is not a victory for oppressed people” and that “Biden will not save us.”

“I came out here because no matter what happens, Biden and Kamala aren’t enough,” said one of the protesters, Alejandro Quezada Brom, 28, referring to Vice President Kamala Harris. He said the new president needs to know that “the pressure’s not off” for progress on immigration and policing reforms.

Seattle police officers followed the group and began to surround it as night fell. At least two protesters appeared to be arrested.

At yet another demonstration in Portland, people gathered to hear speakers who celebrated Mr. Trump’s departure but also called for continued pressure on the new government.

“The fight has just begun,” said Ray Austin, 25. He said that the damage done by Mr. Trump could not be undone by the likes of Mr. Biden and that the nation needed a groundswell of people demanding more.

Speakers at the event called for a Green New Deal to fight climate change, a “Medicare for All”-style health insurance system, overhauls of police departments to address racial disparities and other fundamental changes. But that event was more subdued than others around the city.

In the aftermath of George Floyd’s death in Minneapolis last May, protesters in Portland mobilized on the streets nightly, much of their ire targeted at the mayor and the police force that repeatedly used tear gas to subdue them. The crowds swelled during the summer after Mr. Trump issued an executive order to protect federal property and agents wearing camouflage brought a crackdown to the city.

Those conflicts have since subsided, but protesters in Portland have continued to mobilize.

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#5292: Jan 21st 2021 at 1:45:14 AM

You know, given it's 2021, shouldn't we either close this thread or rename it?

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Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
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#5293: Jan 21st 2021 at 2:30:36 AM

Seems like Antifa destroyed the Oregon Headquarters of the Democrats, among other things

https://ktvz.com/news/crime-courts/2021/01/20/protesters-gather-damage-democratic-headquarters-in-portland/

Just....why? The Left needs to be united now more than ever.

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TheWildWestPyro from Seattle, WA Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
#5294: Jan 21st 2021 at 2:39:23 AM

I'd like to see a popular front, honestly. Otherwise a lot of this is honestly just hurting the cause and making the Left look bad. Again.

Edited by TheWildWestPyro on Jan 21st 2021 at 2:39:41 AM

Kayeka from Amsterdam (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#5295: Jan 21st 2021 at 2:39:56 AM

These were not Antifa (who generally only come out when fascists do). These were anarchists. They are, in principle, against presidents to begin with.

TheWildWestPyro from Seattle, WA Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
#5296: Jan 21st 2021 at 2:42:09 AM

OK, thanks for clearing it up.

Wispy Since: Feb, 2017
#5297: Jan 21st 2021 at 3:04:33 AM

[up][up][up][up]The Left has never been united. We tend to fight amongst ourselves a lot.

Medinoc Chaotic Greedy from France Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#5298: Jan 21st 2021 at 3:08:03 AM

I wouldn't count Anarchists as part of "the left". Anarchy is a lolbertarian dream that invariably results in someone taking power and establishing their personal dictatorship/feudalism.

Edited by Medinoc on Jan 21st 2021 at 12:08:18 PM

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Kayeka from Amsterdam (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#5299: Jan 21st 2021 at 3:17:15 AM

Unlike Lolbertarians, however, they are quite adamant about building a society without hierarchy, rather than letting everyone with ambition fight it out until the natural order is established. As such, they are usually more sympathetic to the Left than the Right.

Of course, these clowns going all "I want it all and I want it now" are hardly helping anyone.

Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#5300: Jan 21st 2021 at 9:25:30 AM

It depends a bit on what we mean when we say "Anarchism". There is an ideology called Anarcho-Capitalism, though other anarchists usually hate them and consider them not-anarchists.

I'm kind of shaking my head now at this attack, I was expecting these types of groups to calm down. Having said that, in hindsight I probably shouldn't be surprised. Thankfully, even if these attacks become more common, I have faith that our current President will be able to handle this situation in a rational manner for the greater public good.

My God, it feels so good to say those last few words.

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