Death Battle cleanup

Not really? I'm pretty sure they've said those exact words about other episodes we've called stomps.

From the very first post in the thread (which should honestly be stickied at this point):

A crowner has decided that a Curb-Stomp Battle can be found in either the animation or the analysis, but the analysis must actually be described as a curb-stomp. If the hosts call it close, it's not considered a curb-stomp even if there's a large difference between the combatants' feats.

I mean, yes, but that wording doesn't mean it's not a stomp, especially when they say that the best of Guts' feats are worse then all of Dimitri's lowballs? It moreso ties to Guts' better endurance overall, and especially since that same thing basically says that Guts losing was inevitable within the same sentence - I just don't think that "Guts was never gonna go down easy" automatically makes it not a stomp. That's not the same as "this was an extremely close match" because one is basically just talking about Guts as a fighter having insane endurance while the other is saying it was close.

Edited by ultimate_life_form on Aug 15th 2023 at 5:22:47 AM

But by definition, a Curb-Stomp Battle can only occur if the loser does go down easy. A stomp is not merely a fight where the winner holds many big advantages, a stomp is a fight where the winner utterly dominates without needing to put in any real effort at all.

Hell, the loser can have no real win condition and still be able to resist hard enough to disqualify it from being a stomp.

Edited by Zuxtron on Aug 15th 2023 at 2:15:40 PM

Could Martian Manhunter VS Silver Surfer qualify as a stomp?

The analysis was not one-sided enough to count. Although only the Silver Surfer has a real win condition, Martian Manhunter is otherwise an even match and even has an advantage in terms of psychic powers, meaning he'd be able to put up a great fight before going down.

Best comparison is Hulk vs. Doomsday, imo, which we don't classify as a stomp.

Anyways, gonna come back to Guts vs. Dimitri with this - I don't see how them saying "Guts wouldn't go down easy" is conducive to saying it's not a stomp, considering Shadow vs. Ryuko, for instance, has them saying Ryuko "put up a fight for the ages", which are basically the same thing.

The example for Shadow VS Ryuko says the episode only turns into a stomp after Super Shadow comes into play, which is also how the analysis presents it. They don't try to hide how lopsided Senketsu Kisaragi vs. Super Shadow is, which is what makes it a stomp even though base-form Shadow would be a somewhat closer match.

I mean I can see the argument against stomping Guts vs. Dimitri but I wouldn't think it's rather wise to go with the move. And considering what would be going on I would suggest listening to what others have to say before making the final judgment, especially for Ryuko vs. Shadow for me personally.

Even base form Shadow vs Senketsu Kisaragi would still be one-sided enough as he's way too fast for her to land any hits so all he has to do is just make her use up her power before reverting to normal.

Edited by Tehrannotaur on Sep 5th 2023 at 2:03:27 AM

I noticed that Awesome.Death Battle Season Eight describes Madara VS Aizen as a very close fight, despite this thread deciding that it's a stomp.

• It cannot be understated just how close this fight was. Many of the most hyped fights in Death Battle often end up being huge one-sided stomps when it comes to the post-fight analysis. Aizen and Madara however are so comparable to each other in strength and speed that it literally came down to arsenal. The only times fights are this close is when the fighters themselves are closer to olympic athletes than world ending threats—such as Nightwing Vs Daredevil and Winter Soldier Vs Red Hood. It just really makes the fight feel all the more special and impactful.

I'm thinking of removing it anyway just because it's more an observation about the fight, rather than an actual Moment.

Recent ep was not a stomp lol, moving along...

It's probably genuinely the closest match in the show's history, by their own logic.

So the character sheets for earlier seasons need cleaning right?

So, doing some wick checks and I noticed that Curb-Stomp Battle is listed on the Recap pages for a few fights that are not listed on CurbStompBattle.Death Battle. Should any of these fights be added to the page, or should these entries be cut?

"Vegata vs. Shadow"

"Ryu vs. Scorpion"

"Captain Marvel vs. Shazam"

All three of them were removed from CurbStompBattle.Death Battle so they shouldn't be in the recap pages either "Vegata vs. Shadow" and the "Captain Marvel vs. Shazam" aren't even using Death Battle's explanations.

Something that bothers me about CurbStompBattle.Death Battle is that it describes Thor vs. Wonder Woman as a "one-sided Feminist Fantasy". That's not what Feminist Fantasy means; it just refers to fictional works with feminist themes, not a fight debate where the woman (who happens to be a female icon) wins. I think the link to that trope should be removed.

That's kind of a yikes way to describe it. I'm also in favor of getting rid of that.

Yeah. Describing "Wonder Woman vs. Thor" as a "one-sided Feminist Fantasy" is just a terrible misuse of the term.

Agreed with that.

I will say Cole vs. Alex is almost certainly a stomp.

It's best not to discuss episodes that are First-only.

Okay so. Cole vs Alex is a total wash.

Cole could resist the Blacklight virus, was much faster then Alex, his bio-leech could negate Alex's regeneration, and had a huge power advantage on top of that. As well, even without his bio-leech, being able to defeat the Beast gave him the exact things he needed to put Alex down for good due to their regeneration being similar in potency. In addition, even if you used Evil Cole, he'd beat Alex even worse due to having all the power of the Beast himself. Alex's only real advantage that's meaningful (experience) just couldn't compare to anything Cole had.

Nuke the Feminist Fantasy pothole on base of being borderline misogynistic.

2As soon as they mention "Nothing could challenge the gap in power" with Cole's force field alone being able to withstood what Alex could, nor could Alex even match anything close to Cole's own. Like Chosen Undead vs. Dragonborn, but much kinder to Alex.

Edited by Mrbda241 on Sep 26th 2023 at 10:30:49 AM

Yeah... it really is.