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PlasmaPower Headdy The Hero Relationship Status: I know
Headdy The Hero
Apr 13th 2020 at 11:47:21 PM

A lot of these images in the character folders donít have a good view of the charactersí faces, and they arenít full body portraits.

I suggest that the character folders all use Final Fantasy VIIís original artwork, (like this) because they donít have the issues that the current images do. Plus they look nicer.

Zackís an exception. Since he dosent have artwork for the PS 1 original, his Crisis Core artwork will have to do. (This works nicely)

Edited by PlasmaPower on Apr 14th 2020 at 4:03:38 PM

Primis from Nsburg
Apr 14th 2020 at 7:59:11 PM

I don't really have any issue with the current pics, they all look fine. Not like their faces are hidden in any of them.

Character pics don't have to be full-body, in fact, a lot of the time full-body pics mess with the examples list, either by squishing it or extending way past the examples.

The suggestion for Zack's image, in particular, strikes me as a lateral change. Sure you can see his face better, but the Buster Sword is way more prominent than in the current.

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BlackMage43 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Apr 14th 2020 at 10:06:58 PM

The original character art does look better and is far more iconic than the current Advent Children ones, and is much more fitting to use the OG design than the ones from the side movie.

Not sure what to do with Zack. Either current or suggestion are both fine.

Adept from Online Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Apr 14th 2020 at 10:26:45 PM

I don't like full-body images for character illustrations, to be honest, and I don't particularly like the art style of the original game's artwork, so I say keep the current(s).

PlasmaPower Headdy The Hero Relationship Status: I know
Headdy The Hero
Apr 15th 2020 at 10:03:19 AM

I think we could crop them if they end up messing with the formatting of the pages.

Primis from Nsburg
Apr 15th 2020 at 12:21:51 PM

I prefer the art style of the Advent Children pics, too. I just think it looks better, plus it's consistent with basically all other FF7 media.

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rjd1922 Charging Go! from Illinois Relationship Status: Love is for the living, Sal
Charging Go!
Apr 15th 2020 at 12:25:54 PM

The current images could maybe use quality upgrades and be less closely cropped, but are otherwise fine. While not a dealbreaker, it's worth noting that Cloud's artwork is used on BFS:

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/cloud_strife_art.png

I am the son of wind, the child of spirit.
Apr 15th 2020 at 8:43:31 PM

[tup] to the swap, barring other suggestions. I'm not a fan of the cloudy grey overlay on any of them, but Cid, Barret and Vincent are especially bad in terms of showing almost nothing of their faces. And just generally, I'd rather use iconic original art than promo images from a spinoff movie.

Karxrida Anti-Trap Android from Darkness within Darkness Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
Anti-Trap Android
Apr 15th 2020 at 8:55:25 PM

I'm fine with swapping to the OG art.

[up]x2 It'll be super easy to find a replacement for BFS.

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rjd1922 Charging Go! from Illinois Relationship Status: Love is for the living, Sal
Charging Go!
Apr 15th 2020 at 9:05:46 PM

[up][up]You say "iconic", I say "overused". I prefer the current images.

[up]The BFS image has an admin note saying not to change it, though this isn't a huge deal since FastEddie isn't in charge anymore.

Edited by rjd1922 on Apr 15th 2020 at 11:09:00 AM

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Teefah Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
Apr 15th 2020 at 11:38:01 PM

I think the current pics are really awful, using the official OG art seems like a no-brainer. The current images aren't high quality, have an ugly greyish filter and all characters are in weird poses.

The official OG art has them all in central shots, prominently feature all aspects of their designs, are all wearing their iconic outfits (and not the ones they wear in a single movie spin-off) and are bursting with their personality. Just compare Official Cid art of him giving a shit-eating grin with Lifeless AC Cid sitting sadly in a corner moping.

Using OG art would also be more consistent since Cait Sith has no AC image of his own.

Edited by Teefah on Apr 15th 2020 at 11:39:04 AM

Piterpicher Special Boy from TV Tropes Ultimate (Poland IRL) Relationship Status: All is for my lord
Special Boy
Apr 16th 2020 at 12:09:24 AM

I kinda prefer OG art as well. They do have more personality and are higher quality. The fact that Cait Sith has no official AC art, yeah, that's also a valid concern. I don't think the full body OG art would extend past the example list either, since these example lists are fairly long (would probably be longer if the page was finally unlocked, but that's life). Also, since we've swapped VideoGame.Final Fantasy VII to it's iconic boxart and VideoGame.Final Fantasy VII Remake would also have a reference to it as a pic, using OG art here and Characters.Final Fantasy VII Remake having its official artwork of modernised characters gives a same comparison purpose.

So yeah, I'm [tup] for swapping to the original artwork.

I'm mainly adding examples and pages, not really taking part in discussions. Maybe I'm burned out right now.
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Rockstar Bi-con
Apr 16th 2020 at 12:59:16 AM

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PlasmaPower Headdy The Hero Relationship Status: I know
Headdy The Hero
Apr 23rd 2020 at 3:14:29 PM

I think we could also swap Sephirothís artwork to the OG art, though I think it would have to be cropped horizontally as his sword is so damn long.

That just leaves the question of what picture we use for Zack now.

P.S, how do image changes on locked pages work? Does an admin swap them in?

Edited by PlasmaPower on Apr 23rd 2020 at 7:16:41 AM

rjd1922 Charging Go! from Illinois Relationship Status: Love is for the living, Sal
Charging Go!
Apr 23rd 2020 at 3:45:48 PM

[up]A mod swaps them in, which is what usually happens when Image Pickin' decides to replace an image anyway.

I am the son of wind, the child of spirit.
Apr 27th 2020 at 2:47:37 AM

I do have to question about Ifalna's image, as the current image is from her Remake incarnation. Although Tetsuya's OG 7 concept design for her is near identical. (If we're going to stick with Ifalna's Remake design instead of, could her image be shrunk to 250 width?)

Also, the wiki coding of Ifalna and Shalua's profile pics - the "quoteright" - should be better moved to underneath the "Appears in" coding line on better consistency. For example, it'd match like Marlene and Denzel's entries. At the moment, Ifalna and Shalua's profile pics overlaps the "Voiced by" and "Appears in" subsections (well "Appears in" for Ifalna since she didn't had a VA). Could a mod revise those two?

PlasmaPower Headdy The Hero Relationship Status: I know
Headdy The Hero
Apr 30th 2020 at 9:39:39 PM

Can I get more opinions?

BlackMage43 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
May 8th 2020 at 6:16:24 PM

[up][up][up] People have been using the Remake concept arts for the Remake character page.

Anyhow, made a folder with all the OG art, as well as some Advent Children or Crisis Core outfit changes for some characters. In regards to Cloud and Tifa, they do have their official Dissidia render for the AC outfits that I think look better than the AC official promos. I added both in this folder, but I think we should pick one or the other.

    Images 

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/ff7_cloud_strife.png
Click here  to see Cloud in his Advent Children attire.
Click here  to see Cloud in his Advent Children attire.
Click here  to see Cloud in his Crisis Core attire.

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/ff7_barret_wallace.png
Click here  to see Barret in his Advent Children attire.

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/ff7_tifa_lockhart.png
Click here  to see Tifa in her Advent Children attire.
Click here  to see Tifa in her Advent Children attire.

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/ff7_aerith_gainsborough.png
Click here  to see Aerith in her Crisis Core attire.

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/ff7_red_xiii.png

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/ff7_cid_highwind.png

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/ff7_cait_sith.png

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/ff7_vincent_valentine.png

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/ff7_yuffie_kisaragi.png
Click here  to see Yuffie in her Advent Children attire.

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/zack_fair.png
Click here  to see Zack in his SOLDIER 2nd Class attire.

May 14th 2020 at 9:05:15 AM

Is anything being done with this one yet?

Primis from Nsburg
May 14th 2020 at 9:21:10 AM

[up] I don't think we have any consensus. A crowner might be in order.

Edited by Primis on May 14th 2020 at 9:21:18 AM

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May 17th 2020 at 2:16:09 PM

Finally got around to crownering this one.

May 21st 2020 at 3:12:43 PM

I'mma go ahead and call this one since the margin is so wide. I'm not going to have time to do the legwork on the pic swaps, though.

Karxrida Anti-Trap Android from Darkness within Darkness Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
Anti-Trap Android
May 22nd 2020 at 8:35:28 PM

The page is locked so maybe ~Berrenta can work on it. Here's an index of the characters on the FF Wiki to make your job finding the pics easier.

Edited by Karxrida on May 22nd 2020 at 8:41:15 AM

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