Sony's Universe of Marvel Characters

"It's YOUR fault we tricked you into appearing in our terrible off-brand movie!"

You know that thing about how Karen Gillan convinced (tricked?) Matt Smith into doing a Marvel movie and he ended up in Morbius?

I was thinking about that while watching One Love (good movie btw). Because it stars Kingsley Ben-Adir and Lashana Lynch and I was wondering if it was the same situation, where she sold him on the MCU and then he had the misfortune to appear in Secret Invasion.

Madame Web got two jabs at the Academy Awards last night by the way. Haha.

Executives really dont like taking responsibility for their own decisions. Speaking of Doctor Who actors, thats what happened when the show came back for the revival was creative liberties were given not because they had trust, it was because execs who thought if they got directly involved their heads would be on a chopping block if it didnt work out. May have led to abuse on the set that caused Christopher Eccleston to give his role to David Tennant but thats a different story.

Sony didnt even have faith enough for Madame Web to say its part of their cinematic universe. Are they really gonna make their actress take fault for that? Also, wondering if Dokota Johnson should have left her talent agency since she doesnt have an agency to fall back to for roles against Sony's retaliation since she's on her own last time I checked

Edited by M1gamiTensei on Mar 11th 2024 at 5:41:27 AM

honestly I'm wishing that after the spiderverse movies are done sony loses the spider-man rights, besides the animated movies they're just not worth it.

I was hoping for that Spider-Women spider-verse spinoff…

that would be included on the spiderverse movies, so that would still applies to what I said.

Even if Sony loses the rights, Disney could just hire the Spiderverse crew to keep on making more animated movies for them.

A Marvel universe movie by them would be amazing. Imagine them working with the full MU.

that does sound awesome but sadly it's more likely that they will instead try to pull away spider-man from the mcu again despite they already proving they can't work anymore without it

Since Miguel is now a popular character... 2099 movie? You got your spiderman distinct from Tom Holland. Refit the originally rogues gallery to the new setting. Execs are so limited with their alien mindset that they cant see their monyemaker right there.

Edited by M1gamiTensei on Mar 11th 2024 at 7:39:00 AM

... is he a popular character? He's the villain, and one that the narrative kinda goes out of its way to show as being more in the wrong than his Well-Intentioned Extremist views seem to be. He's a no fun hardass surrounded by more colorful and fun characters.

I'm genuinely asking since I'm myopic as I actually already liked 2099 well before the movie, but I'm genuinely curious if Miguel got himself a fan following off of this.

He's got an Estrogen Brigade at least...

Madame Web bombing even worse than Morbius is gonna be a big wake-up call for certain.

Believe it when I see it.

I'm sure they already took the right lesson to heart: that women-led movies don't sell.

Not realizing that they only have one popular character to use and everyone sees the rest of their movies as phoning it in, really.

Nah people like venom. They just don't like stuff like madame web.

Venom is that popular character

I like Venom the character, but honestly I watched the movie and thought it was dogshit. Like, not even funny bad, just boring and cliche.

I've heard people call it a "throwback to 2000s superhero movies", and I agree, but they're seemingly forgetting that those movies aside from Spider-Man 1 and 2 were all terrible.

Nostalgia Filer sometimes be like "Damn, I wish people worked hard again like I did"

"dude, you grew up in the great depression. You were starving to death"

The first two X-Men were great too.

And whoever's making that comparison clearly doesn't think those movies were terrible. I don't think anyone is 'forgetting' anything.

Edited by Chortleous on Mar 12th 2024 at 5:28:17 AM

I always thought the first Xmen movie was in 1999 but when I looked up, it was 2000. What the heck

Venom at least has a lot of familiarity to Spider-Man and the appeal helps in that case. He's also very much ingrained as being associated with the character too. Again, that's why while both Morbius and Madame Web don't connect to Spider-Man anywhere near enough—and Kraven probably won't either even though that might get by on its own merits, others like Green Goblin and Doc Ock definitely WILL.

Rewatching Venom 2.

News from Variety: Venom 3 is now subtitled “The Last Dance” and has been moved up to October 25.

https://variety.com/2024/film/news/venom-3-title-last-dance-release-date-tom-hardy-1235940273/

Edited by BigBadShadow25 on Mar 12th 2024 at 8:27:46 AM