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OK, here's where this thread is standing, with the unlocking:

Given the widespread backlash and complaining about certain aspects of the work (i.e. Dexit), we wanted to communicate very clearly what we are not willing to put up with: prolonged, circular complaining (or wonking).

Of course, with a controversial subject that has a large impact on the gameplay, Dexit is in one of those areas where there it may be on-topic to discuss it, but the nature of that discussion can wildly vary. As has been said elsewhere, we ix-nayed discussion of Dexit entirely because it never seemed to happen without devolving into that kind of complaining.

However, we're willing to unlock the thread after this 3-day cooldown period because the Pokemon General thread has been stable enough. And -

Can I discuss Dexit?

Yes. But if there is prolonged wonking on it, the thread just becomes an echo chamber of complaints and we do not like that. No one likes that. The same rules as ever apply. Be a constructive, healthy space. Have conversations about what you like, and what you don't like, but the thread should not get locked into a series of bitter complaints.

If you have questions or concerns about mod implementation or action, we have a thread for that here.

Alright? Thank you all for waiting this out. I hope we're all good now.

Edited by nombretomado on Nov 18th 2019 at 5:49:02 AM

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
CountofBleck Ever Evolving, Ever Adapting from A world of lies and deception Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Ever Evolving, Ever Adapting
#4302: Aug 8th 2019 at 8:32:47 AM

The inspiration is defenitely pollution, yes, but they turned that inspiration ina a creature that purrifies the enviroment instead of polluting it. Its not that complicated.

You could also point out that the inspiration also what caused a shift in the balance of nature itself, one such example being the dark and light pepper moths, but we know too little to jump to those lengrhs.

Edited by CountofBleck on Aug 8th 2019 at 11:35:17 AM

Mizerous Takat Empress from Outworld Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
Takat Empress
#4303: Aug 8th 2019 at 9:55:21 AM

  • Watches new direct and sees Yell* ...I can't believe there is a worse looking team than Flare.

Mileena Madness
JTTWlover Heya there! I'm West. from Chinese Heaven Since: Mar, 2018 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Heya there! I'm West.
#4304: Aug 8th 2019 at 10:43:59 AM

[up] I thought Flare was kinda cool. Seriously, the most ridiculous one is Skull or whatever it was.

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WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#4305: Aug 8th 2019 at 10:48:23 AM

I like that team Skull was super pathetic and treated as a joke. It was funny, but if these new guys are also treated as super pathetic I'm worried that every evil team going forward is going to be just a joke.

AmethystLeslie Schezo Wegey confirmed for King from IRL Unova Since: Mar, 2015 Relationship Status: He makes me feel like I have a heart
Schezo Wegey confirmed for King
#4306: Aug 8th 2019 at 10:58:04 AM

I'm just weirded out by these people being fanboys over this random girl who just so happens to be good at Pokemon battles.

Goddammit, Schezo...
Ultimatum Disasturbator from Second Star to the left (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Disasturbator
#4307: Aug 8th 2019 at 11:00:23 AM

wild mass guessThe evil teams getting increasingly harder to take seriously is meant to catch people off their guard so they spring the next team Galaxy on them

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Ducolamia Pretty Cure fanatic Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: A teenager in love
Pretty Cure fanatic
#4308: Aug 8th 2019 at 11:04:38 AM

[up][up] I mean it's really not that far off. In prior games such as Emerald or USUM your player character was able to develop a fanbase through side activities. Trainers having fanbases is a pretty common occurrence as it's considered a class in it's own right. Important characters have been shown through dialogue and flavor text to have some sort of niche following. This is especially if they show to have a side-job outside of their work. Marnie could possibly be doing other stuff on the side or resonate with a certain group of people enough to have one. And we should take into consideration how big gym spectator-ship is being highlighted in this game.

Weirdguy149 The King Without a Kingdom from Lumiose City under development Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
The King Without a Kingdom
#4309: Aug 8th 2019 at 11:11:10 AM

I can't get over the fact that the female grunts have body pillows of her.

It's been 3000 years…
RainingMetal Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#4310: Aug 8th 2019 at 11:11:36 AM

wild mass guessAll joke teams end with double ll's.

MEKristian Since: Nov, 2009
#4311: Aug 8th 2019 at 11:14:13 AM

Pretty sure those are just posters/wall scrolls.

TPPR10 Shocking Gun! from out of nowhere Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Shocking Gun!
#4312: Aug 8th 2019 at 11:19:17 AM

I personally want to believe that Marnie probably was someone known before she took part in League challenge for people to gravitate to her like with Team Yell.

Or if we are to believe that everything' rigged, then they could be a paid hype squad to make her seem more important than she is.

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KuroBaraHime ☆♥☆ Since: Jan, 2011
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#4313: Aug 8th 2019 at 11:20:11 AM

The website page for Team Yell says they're towels.

Chariot King of Anime Since: Jul, 2014
King of Anime
#4314: Aug 8th 2019 at 11:29:43 AM

Found this translation of dialogue from the Japanese trailer. Marnie doesn't approve of Team Yell if these translations are accurate.

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Mistakes Were Made
#4315: Aug 8th 2019 at 11:49:03 AM

Figured they were those types of fans.

Edited by Cross on Aug 8th 2019 at 3:00:03 PM

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from Second Star to the left (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Disasturbator
#4316: Aug 8th 2019 at 11:50:00 AM

just like pokemon's own unpleaseable fanbase!

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#4317: Aug 8th 2019 at 11:54:00 AM

Just like a lot of fandom's unpleasable fanbases....

...wonder if they are commenting on anyone in particular?

I mean, I doubt Yell was created in between the National Dex controversy and now, but considering there's probably been other shit the fandom has gone crazy over (and Yell seems to be made up of adults)....

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Cross Mistakes Were Made (Elder Troper) Relationship Status: Abstaining
Mistakes Were Made
#4318: Aug 8th 2019 at 11:58:55 AM

Yell seems more like the defense force side of fanbases, the ones that harass (or other the unpleasant things) anyone that disagrees or "tarnish" the what they're in support of. People here did make the comparison to hooligans in sporting events.

Edited by Cross on Aug 8th 2019 at 3:02:11 PM

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SkormSnow-Strider Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#4319: Aug 8th 2019 at 12:02:55 PM

Not having played Gen IV, was Galactic all that malicious like Rocket and Flare, or were they more of the hopelessly misguided brand of Teams like the rest of the series?

[up]Yeah. Between how heavy Galar seems to emphasize the sort of spectacle you expect from major sporting events, the parallel is pretty obvious. I will say that even if they're played up as losers, they'd still be different from Team Skull since the latter was actually on a much more powerful and malicious organizations payroll. Assuming they somehow don't have anything to do with something more sinister going on, that'd be a pretty significant difference.

...It'd be cool if the protagonist actually got a large amount of fans though, considering they inevitably curbstomp everyone into the dirt.

Edited by SkormSnow-Strider on Aug 8th 2019 at 3:07:59 PM

Hashil Since: Aug, 2010
#4320: Aug 8th 2019 at 12:05:36 PM

They were all so dumb they didn't know what their boss's goal was.

Vertigo_High Touch The Sky Since: May, 2010
Touch The Sky
#4321: Aug 8th 2019 at 12:13:57 PM

They also tried to blow up a town and are implied to have killed a roughneck's pokemon so they are somewhat malicious.

tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
Professional Forum Ninja
#4322: Aug 8th 2019 at 12:14:17 PM

Just as a note: I've seen two possible Galarian forms.

  1. Hoothoot: In the jobs portion of the Japanese trailer, there is a Hoothoot with a book on its head.
  2. Klink: I saw it on another forum, but can't find it anywhere, but there seems to be an icon somewhere of a Klink with spikier teeth within a wheel.

On an entirely separate note, if Bede is sponsored by Rose, and the player and Hop are sponsored by Leon, then who is Marnie sponsored by?

[up][up] To be fair to the grunts, Cyrus never really told anyone what his end goal was.

Edited by tclittle on Aug 8th 2019 at 2:14:28 PM

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Ever Evolving, Ever Adapting
#4323: Aug 8th 2019 at 12:15:37 PM

[up][up] fanatics dont need logic, just a passion. There are plenty of real life examples to chose from.

KuroBaraHime ☆♥☆ Since: Jan, 2011
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#4324: Aug 8th 2019 at 12:17:24 PM

As I recall, they were like Team Plasma in that some members were just there to cause shit and steal stuff, while other members were true believers to the cause, except dumber since they didn't actually know what it was they were doing or how it would help make the world better, they just blindly believed Cyrus like he was a cult leader.

The admins where basically the same, with Saturn following Cyrus because he found him charismatic and later made a reformed Team Galactic after he found out what Cyrus was planning, Charon was amoral and just in it for profit, and Mars and Jupiter were just Cyrus fangirls who didn't care what he was planning or what they were doing.

Sterok Since: Apr, 2012 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#4325: Aug 8th 2019 at 12:58:18 PM

Yell looks like a combination of toxic sports fans and idol worshippers. Not always the most pleasant of people.

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