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Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#451: Feb 15th 2019 at 11:56:10 AM

Okay, that aside, I basically remade the page for Common Sense Of A Dukes Daughter. I'd been meaning to launch it but apparently it took me so long that someone else did it... three months ago.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#452: Feb 19th 2019 at 5:12:19 PM

Welp. Watching Shield Hero. Let's see what the fuss is about.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
ElfenLiedFan90 Me in a nutshell (Coping with Depression) from Jakarta,Indonesia Since: Aug, 2017 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Me in a nutshell (Coping with Depression)
#453: Feb 19th 2019 at 5:15:50 PM

good god I hope Kinema Citrus wont animate that vomit inducing part regarding the fat*ss king

Edited by ElfenLiedFan90 on Feb 19th 2019 at 8:16:08 PM

"Making screw-ups and mistakes was I ever really good at. Because everything I touch went to hell."
doomrider7 (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#454: Feb 19th 2019 at 9:52:59 PM

[up][up]

They seem to tone down the really bad stuff, but it still has this creepy veneer to it all. The manga and ESPECIALLY LN are really, really bad with that shit.

BattleRaizer from Realm of Khorne Since: Apr, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#455: Feb 19th 2019 at 10:10:24 PM

Yeah, i read the Shield hero a while ago and the creepy stuff really turn me off. I don't know what, it just make me really uncomfortable when reading it. The way the main character mind work,his inner thought, the way his get back on the people that frame him, it all sound like reading someone writing a very uncomfortable power fantasy/revenge fic.

E.T technically is a Isekai movie
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#456: Feb 19th 2019 at 10:36:43 PM

[up]It pretty much was a revenge fic. The writer has claimed in an interview that they based the villains of the work on people they knew.

Disgusted, but not surprised
ElfenLiedFan90 Me in a nutshell (Coping with Depression) from Jakarta,Indonesia Since: Aug, 2017 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Me in a nutshell (Coping with Depression)
#457: Feb 19th 2019 at 10:41:26 PM

@M84 Do you have the link on the interview and its translation?

"Making screw-ups and mistakes was I ever really good at. Because everything I touch went to hell."
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#458: Feb 19th 2019 at 10:45:45 PM

Here's the Facebook post with the English transcript.

Question 2: Where does the inspiration for your characters come from? Are the characters inspired by people who exist in your life?

Answer 2: My concept of the original heroes (Naofumi, Motoyasu, Ren, Itsuki) were mostly inspired by the protagonists of stories I'd read. I tried to think about characters I'd felt a connection to from an objective standpoint, then wrote about the characters from the impression I'd gotten from that line of thinking. Other characters were built out of an attempt to symbolize some character ideas I had, with some rearranging here and there.

I don't typically model characters on people I know, though the only exceptions are some of the enemy characters. There are some enemies that are very unreasonable and violent—I based them on some people I know.

Edited by M84 on Feb 20th 2019 at 2:46:31 AM

Disgusted, but not surprised
BattleRaizer from Realm of Khorne Since: Apr, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#459: Feb 19th 2019 at 10:48:19 PM

Wow... no wonder i feel uncomfortable

E.T technically is a Isekai movie
ElfenLiedFan90 Me in a nutshell (Coping with Depression) from Jakarta,Indonesia Since: Aug, 2017 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Me in a nutshell (Coping with Depression)
#460: Feb 19th 2019 at 10:51:03 PM

Huh... Interesting interview to read. So thats why Tn Y ended up having that kind of story

Edited by ElfenLiedFan90 on Feb 20th 2019 at 1:51:27 AM

"Making screw-ups and mistakes was I ever really good at. Because everything I touch went to hell."
RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#461: Feb 19th 2019 at 11:03:35 PM

Yeah, knowing the author has an attitude of 'you hit me, so now I'm justified to do whatever I want back to you' makes a lot of things fall into place. Add in evil characters based on people they know and complete control over what those characters do, and you have a perfectly justified in-universe revenge fic meat grinder.

It's been fun.
NickTheSwing Since: Aug, 2009
#462: Feb 19th 2019 at 11:07:38 PM

Why do I get the feeling the person who inspired Meldy / Medea is someone he whined about on certain subreddits while hissing about Stacies and then furiously glaring at attractive dudes.

What I'm getting at is; Shield Hero's author? Is an incel.

Sign on for this After The End Fantasy RP.
GoldenKaos Captain of the Dead City from Cirith Ungol Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
Captain of the Dead City
#464: Feb 20th 2019 at 1:28:23 AM

Enter "but it was written by a girl" defence. We still have no concrete confirmation one way or another on that front, do we?

"...in the end the Shadow was only a small and passing thing: there was light and high beauty for ever beyond its reach."
Madmous Since: Dec, 2009
#465: Feb 20th 2019 at 1:33:53 AM

If you think Shield hero is bad, it can get worse: In Himekishi ga Classmate a dude all his classmates get reincarnated and he gets slave magic, guess what happens next.

There's quite some Revenge Isekai/'Fantasy'(but with the normal isekai-RPG system, like leveling up skills)- but it's mostly just porn. Or porn with an excuse plot.

OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#466: Feb 20th 2019 at 2:14:33 AM

Does being a "girl" really change anything about hiw bad it is?

Every accusation by the GOP is ALWAYS a confession.
GoldenKaos Captain of the Dead City from Cirith Ungol Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
Captain of the Dead City
#467: Feb 20th 2019 at 2:19:43 AM

[up] I don't think it does, but it seems to be a common retort to the "it reads like incel wish fulfilment" criticism.

It's a bit of a "this thing can't be racist, it was written by a black person" argument, which wouldn't be true even if the person was a girl in this case.

[up][up] Yes, we discussed works of that level a few pages back I think. It's just more transparent and gratuitous incel wish fulfilment.

"...in the end the Shadow was only a small and passing thing: there was light and high beauty for ever beyond its reach."
Aquaconda Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#468: Feb 20th 2019 at 4:32:21 AM

[up][up][up]Oh God that's fucking horrid.

GoldenKaos Captain of the Dead City from Cirith Ungol Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
Captain of the Dead City
#469: Feb 20th 2019 at 4:42:47 AM

There are multiple isekais like it out there.

Is isekais the plural of isekai anyway?

"...in the end the Shadow was only a small and passing thing: there was light and high beauty for ever beyond its reach."
Kayeka from Amsterdam (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#470: Feb 20th 2019 at 4:50:38 AM

I don't think the Japanese language has a plural form for any of its words, so no.

RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#471: Feb 20th 2019 at 4:54:55 AM

Yeah, you can just say isekais. Because multiple isekai sounds weird.

It's been fun.
dragonfire5000 from Where gods fear to tread Since: Jan, 2001
#472: Feb 20th 2019 at 9:57:27 AM

Does being a "girl" really change anything about hiw bad it is?

It wouldn't make the issues brought up any better, really. Remember that Fifty Shades of Grey was written by a woman, and that is a fairly misogynystic work.

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#473: Feb 20th 2019 at 10:34:00 AM

Worst isekai along those lines I've tried reading was Lazy Dungeon Master. Could not stand the protagonist for how he enables and rewards a bunch of bandits, up to and including watching them take a little girl as a sex slave, taking her in after they get killed by other more moral people and keeping her as his slave afterward. Nicest thing you can say about him in this situation is that he doesn't personally rape her, but probably only because he's not a pedophile.

doomrider7 (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#474: Feb 20th 2019 at 10:40:19 AM

One of the things that turned me off immediately about Shield Hero was Malty's fate and just the existence of such a punishment AT ALL. Like, She's basically shipped off to be the 10,000th bride of this kind that's described as being like Jabba the Hutt who rapes to death all the princesses(and it's always younger princesses apparently) that are sent to him for stepping out of line and he keeps recordings via crystals of the events. The fact that apparently she's based on someone the author had problems with just makes the whole thing repugnantly fucked up not to mention a character like that king existing as anything but someone to deyhrone. I think it was reading that at the tropes page or the wiki that caused me to drop it.

Edit: The, "It was written by a woman" defense falls apart the instant you remember Ayn Rand. She was a woman, but wrote some SERIOUSLY sexist misogynistic crap.

Edited by doomrider7 on Feb 20th 2019 at 4:38:49 AM

doomrider7 (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#475: Feb 20th 2019 at 10:42:41 AM

@Arha

Oh Jesus and I got that rec'd from somewhere. WTF is it with these repugnant shitty Isekai that have slavery(often sexual at that) as part of their gimmick?!


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