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windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#27: Feb 13th 2019 at 9:23:12 AM

The first episode has been getting some pretty great reviews.

kkhohoho Since: May, 2011
#28: Feb 15th 2019 at 6:40:20 PM

Saw the first episode of Doom Patrol. And... it's good. Like, really good. Really, REALLY damn good. They've only just started really getting into the craziness, but if they keep up this level of quality, the rest of the show's gonna be amazeballs.

Edited by kkhohoho on Feb 16th 2019 at 8:14:50 AM

Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#29: Feb 15th 2019 at 11:30:16 PM

Has it started started, or is it an early premier?

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#30: Feb 15th 2019 at 11:31:46 PM

I haven't seen it yet, but I am positively giddy that it's getting rave reviews. The Doom Patrol really freaking deserves a series that's as awesome as they are.

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#31: Feb 16th 2019 at 12:43:45 AM

[up][up] The first episode premiered today on DC Universe.

BigK1337 Since: Jun, 2012
#32: Feb 16th 2019 at 11:19:51 AM

Just watched the first episode, and wow. Not only was it the dream David Cronenberg Doom Patrol movie I always wanted, but it was also the envisioned Fant4stic movie Josh Trank wanted to make . . . okay maybe not, this show actually respected the source material it was based on unlike Trank’s original plans for his film.

Kind of find Mr. Nobody’s Leaning on the Fourth Wall jab at critics amusing when he states that they are not going to like this show. That 95% Fresh Rating this show is sitting at says otherwise.

Classifiedzerogoki from Canada Since: Apr, 2012 Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#33: Feb 16th 2019 at 11:27:58 AM

I'm excited for Cyborg's debut next week.

"Strategy? Spacing? I just keep punching until I hit something." - Sol Badguy
Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
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#34: Feb 16th 2019 at 11:58:10 AM

And us germans will have to wait longer for the Netflix release again. Sucks.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#35: Feb 16th 2019 at 5:17:57 PM

I didn’t know Mister Nobody was in the show. Maybe I should avoid this thread until I get a chance to see the episode.

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
Windona Since: Jan, 2010
#36: Feb 17th 2019 at 6:53:45 PM

I am not that familiar with Doom Patrol, but damn the first episode was great. I loved the narration, and what they did with the characters.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#37: Feb 19th 2019 at 4:41:08 AM

Wonder if the series will do what the comics did and reveal that Caulder is the real villain behind everything.

The fact that Caulder lied about Cliff's daughter surviving the accident is already a huge red flag.

I was re-reading the old comics, and one bit that really disgusted me was Caulder's reason for causing Rita's accident. Turns out he was partly motivated by the desire to have power over a beautiful woman.

Edited by M84 on Feb 19th 2019 at 8:43:56 PM

Disgusted, but not surprised
BigK1337 Since: Jun, 2012
#38: Feb 19th 2019 at 10:15:44 AM

[up] Given how faithful this adaption is I think they are building up to that. Hell that speech Niles gave to convince the others to run away was emotionally manipulative and laced with egotism when he decribes the group as his special gift to the world.

It was a very convincing heartfelt speech that makes you think the character cared for them.

Windona Since: Jan, 2010
#39: Feb 19th 2019 at 10:25:21 AM

Plus with Mr. Nobody's speech at the end I thought Caulder worked with or was the Nazi scientist that gave Mr. Nobody his powers. I have to rewatch the opening scene to double check

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#40: Feb 19th 2019 at 9:04:28 PM

I hope they don't go there with him being a full villain but almost certainly the fact that people want to kill him who have terrifying weird powers seems like an indication he'll turn out to be the guy who made them too.

My personal hope is that Niles is just incredibly callous about the traumatizing effects of his experiments that he believes helps them. Mind you, that was mostly just the portrayal in Titans.

I will say Timothy Dalton's peculiar brand of overacting works VERY well for comic books. Its a shame he's not done more of them.

Edited by CharlesPhipps on Feb 19th 2019 at 9:06:03 AM

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#41: Feb 19th 2019 at 9:31:58 PM

Damn near every appearance of Caulder after The Reveal in that issue has portrayed him as a manipulative asshole. At best.

In Teen Titans he spent all his page time negging the Doom Patrol into emotional dependency and lied to Kid Devil by telling him that the other Teen Titans hated him in a bid to get him to join the Doom Patrol.

In Blackest Night the only emotion the Black Lantern could see in him was Greed.

Caulder is not a good man.

Heck, in this series he's already been shown to be a manipulative liar what with convincing Cliff that he was the sole survivor of the accident. The guy made Cliff think he had killed his own daughter in addition to his ex-wife.

Edited by M84 on Feb 20th 2019 at 1:34:15 AM

Disgusted, but not surprised
kkhohoho Since: May, 2011
#42: Feb 19th 2019 at 9:53:30 PM

[up]My problem with that is that he's only 'not a good man' after the retcon. As Drake and Premani originally intended, he was a good if somewhat emotionally stilted man who truly cared about his charges and about saving the world, and didn't emotionally manipulate the team on a regular basis. Which can make the whole Reveal come across as jarring and a slap in the face that probally shouldn't have happened to begin with, and I really hope they don't go that route here.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#43: Feb 19th 2019 at 9:56:10 PM

[up]But like I said, he's already taken a step or two down that route with that lie of his.

And it's the first episode.

Edited by M84 on Feb 20th 2019 at 1:57:04 AM

Disgusted, but not surprised
kkhohoho Since: May, 2011
#44: Feb 19th 2019 at 9:57:46 PM

[up]I know. But there's still a chance they won't go all the way.

Though if they've actually planned it from the start this time, I may not have as much of a problem with it.

That it happened after nearly three decades worth of comics was the main problem I had with the original take on it.

Edited by kkhohoho on Feb 19th 2019 at 11:58:42 AM

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#45: Feb 20th 2019 at 12:41:31 AM

My problem with that is that he's only 'not a good man' after the retcon. As Drake and Premani originally intended, he was a good if somewhat emotionally stilted man who truly cared about his charges and about saving the world, and didn't emotionally manipulate the team on a regular basis.
True, in the Silver Age, the Chief was a lot warmer to the Doom Patrol. In fact, there was an entire issue where the Doom Patrol celebrate his birthday (or the date that they decided was his birthday, since he never told them) and it's all quite nice. But as soon as Caulder came back during the Bronze Age, he was shown as much more of a manipulator — first, denying that he was ever married to Arani Desai, declaring that she was "hopelessly insane," and then admitting that he had experimented on her with his immortality serum. And this was all pre-Morrison, too. Morrison mixed things up a bit by having the Chief seem to be like his old self, but then showing how subtly manipulative he was until, finally, revealing that he had made all of the Doom Patrol's accidents himself.

Of course, I also love that as soon as Morrison revealed Caulder to be a hidden villain, he then had Caulder immediately killed by the Candlemaker. And when Caulder did come back (as a head only during Rachel Pollack's run), he's become The Atoner.

So far, I've found his portrayal in Gerard Way's Doom Patrol interesting, since he comes across much more as a slimy used car salesman, now that everyone knows how manipulative he is.

CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#46: Feb 20th 2019 at 1:37:42 AM

I think he's a character that works best as a Mad Scientist who decided to make superheroes than supervillains.

And ended up doing both.

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
kkhohoho Since: May, 2011
#47: Feb 22nd 2019 at 6:24:52 PM

Finished Ep 2. God this show is amazing.

Also Cyborg surprisingly works. He's the stable force and link to the outside world that the group needs, but he's given just enough to still fit.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#48: Feb 22nd 2019 at 10:58:42 PM

Yeah, I was surprised by how well Cyborg fit in. The fact that they are using him as the established superhero that drives the others (Cliff excluded) to become heroes is something new and interesting.

And man, I was really digging the Cliff/Jane storyline, too. In fact, everyone is hitting it out of the part, including April Bowlby as Rita.

Also, everyone being able to hear Nobody as the narrator was so fucking Grant Morrison it hurt.

kkhohoho Since: May, 2011
#49: Mar 1st 2019 at 7:17:08 PM

Saw ep 3 of Doom Patrol. A bit slow but still pretty good. We also got violent edgy grimdark action at the end, but the difference between that and Titans is 1)the characters still aren't really heroes, 2)the characters weren't in full control of their actions, and 3)the characters are horrified once they've learned what they've done and it gets used for actual Character Development. So it still beats out Titans in that department.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#50: Mar 1st 2019 at 10:04:11 PM

Yeah, Cliff going "What did I do?" really made that scene work — otherwise it would have just been gore for the sake of gore. And I love that Cliff just tends to go along with whatever craziness is around, with the casual "...the fuck?"

We got more from Jane, too, which is nice. I wonder which episode will be when we finally learn her full backstory — I already know from the comics who the "original" personality is (Kay Challis at five years old, who is called K5. She sleeps in the Underground and nobody dares wake her up.), I'm just wondering if they are going to keep the reason for her DID the same as the comic (which would mean walking a very fine line as it involves child molestation).

Oh man, I hope we get an adaptation of the issue where Cliff has to venture into the Underground to find Jane. That would be a great way to show more of her alters and her backstory.


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