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#1: Oct 11th 2017 at 11:44:25 PM

Actual definition, quoth the page:

Divide the number of times you said "Holy Shit!" by the number of scenes. This is the Holy Shit Quotient (or HSQ) for a given episode.
Because Tropes Are Flexible, this obviously also applies to works which are not divided into "scenes". Books have chapters, video games have levels or quests... worst-case scenario, you can trivially divide a work into "1 work" and get a quotient that way. In short, the density of "holy shit" moments. note 

Usage in practice: "This part made me say 'holy shit'." That is, the "holy shit" moments themselves.

For the purpose of this wick check, I accepted as correct any example that indicated in any way that the number of Holy Shits was in some way relevant. As previously mentioned, a "Holy Shit Count" can be trivially converted into a "Holy Shit Quotient", so I, at least, consider it close enough.

    wick check, potholes bolded if the wick was a pothole 
note: long examples have been trimmed if possible

note 2: as of this moment i've only done 10 examples rather than the recommended 50. this is because it is almost 2 am and i should be asleep, not troping. i will come back to this later if people are concerned about the statistical validity of this check.

Definitely correct

  • A Storm of Swords: The highest in the series, with [long list of spoilers], to name a few.
  • Evil Dead: Through the roof. It is indeed the norm for the series but the remake tried to top all of the previous films.

Definite misuse

  • Fate/Zero, Crazy Awesome: ... The second time, however, he turns this trope Up To Eleven when he hijacks a jet fighter to dogfight Gilgamesh and his Vimana.
  • Is It Wrong to Try to Pick Up Girls in a Dungeon?: Bell's fight against Ottar's trained minotaur in episode 8. One of the greatest close-combat fights you'll ever see animated.
    • The fight against the Goliath in the season finale [...]
  • Fate/strange Fake: How about that one moment where [a spoiler happens]? And if that is what happens in just the second volume, then one has to wonder what future parts have in store...
  • Brock Lesnar:
    • Not only is he ungodly strong, but [some other stuff]
    • HE ENDED THE STREAK CLEANLY.
    • Lesnar's freakish physique and jaw-dropping accomplishments [had some results]
    • [This guy is] spoken of as less a human being or even an animal and more a force of nature.
  • YMMV/XKCD: Comic 1190, "Time": ["Time" updated a frame every few hours for a long while.]
    • The story itself: [A brief summary of the plot of "Time".] Holy Shit indeed.

Unclear or ZCE

  • Halo: The Cole Protocol: The sheer amount of plans colliding and backs being stabbed in such a short amount of time qualifies as this. [Misuse?]
  • Phantasy Star Online 2: Quna's "Cosmic Twinkle Star" concert is essentially an attempt to see how much increasingly intense action they can cram into a four minute song. Notably, SEGA found that the amount of things going on in that one concert literally BROKE THE GAME, and had them work on a hotfix, with people being told not to do the new concert on a heavily populated server. [Correct?]
  • YMMV/XKCD: Click and Drag indeed.
  • Las Vegas: "Delinda's Box" (both parts), "Junk in the Trunk", "Heroes", "A Hero Ain't Nothing But A Sandwich"

Thinking about it, ZCEs seem much more likely to mean "this part made me say holy shit" than "this part had a high Holy Shit Quotient", but I don't feel confident outright declaring that they definitely all did.

This seems to be a case of "missing sister trope syndrome". Sister YMMV item. Whatever.

In other circumstances, one might be tempted to rename this to "Holy Shit Moment" and/or redefine it as "the bits that made me say Holy Shit". However, this is a pre-existing fanspeak term, so that may not fly in this case.

The solution seems to be creating the missing sister thing, and pointing all "this one part made me say holy shit" wicks at that instead.

Dewicking the abbreviation HSQ may also be beneficial, as the word "Quotient" is probably the plainest indication of the term's original meaning, and wicks hiding that word may have accelerated the misuse.

edited 11th Oct '17 11:45:59 PM by wingedcatgirl

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#2: Nov 11th 2017 at 4:28:11 PM

How about disallowing off-page examples?

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#3: Dec 27th 2017 at 8:19:54 AM

I agree with creating a Holy Shit Moment article. But rather than a "sister trope" relationship, I think it'd be more helpful to make HSM the "super-/sub-trope" relation. That way, Tropers would be more likely to understand that an example cannot be both but rather either/or.

The logic here is that a HSQ is comprised of all the work's HS Ms.

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#4: Dec 28th 2017 at 12:08:08 AM

I think I've asked this before in another thread, but still I honestly don't see the point of the trope, especially since it's not clear what is meant by a "Holy Shit!" reaction (does it indicate surprise? awe? horror?) that isn't already covered by other pages (the Moments pages, Wham pages, etc.).

edited 28th Dec '17 12:08:50 AM by Adept

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#5: Aug 15th 2018 at 12:30:37 AM

Stale thread, closing.

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