The Flash (2023)

Man, a scene like that would get a very different response nowadays.

Yeah it's really awkward to see Ezra Miller after all those scandals.

I have heard people say it will Cosmic Retcon Keaton into DCEU's main Batman, and honestly that is a smart move? He is the most like Affleck's Batman, having been a killer at one point, being more seasoned or old then usual, ETC.

I'm still excited for the movie, even if it's just to see the new Supergirl.

I think this movie kinda has to be amazing if it wants to even try getting good word of mouth.

It might pick up a bit of money through Bile Fascination or people morbidly curious about just what kind of train wreck it turns into.

From what I understand, the movie is fine itself based on reports... it's just that Ezra's post film-production antics have made it impossible to advertise the movie since he's the big star of the film.

Ironically since a lot of people assumed this would mostly be a Batman and maybe Supergirl movie with Flash happening to show up.

The one time they decide to let the Flash take center stage is when the actor is going on a rampage.

I heard a theory from reddit though more of a morbid joke is that if Ezra ends up in jail or dead, Warner bros will just rename the movie and in the latter case, just market the movie as the last one starring the late Ezra Miller.

The latter is pretty scummy but it worked for a certain other movie.

Tbf Heath Ledger didn't have nearly this much controversy before his death like cults or grooming allegations?

Not sure how that would work without backlash.

Yeah I said to that guy that Heath Ledger was a beloved actor even if he was seen as miscast for the role initially.

Still very curious to see how they handle this movie. I say they do the smart thing and just put the other stars in the marketing, as well as rename the movie.

Or they could, you know, just pixel-censor Miller’s face or something.

"he's so fast he's too blurry because he's The Flash,dur!"

DC already threw $90m down the drain by cancelling Batgirl, I assume they could also waste a bit more money to reshoot or digitally cover Miller's face.

The only reason they're not doing I assume is that it is an ongoing investigation and whatever the contract is does not allow them to do so yet. Or they're completely delusional. Because even if Batgirl was on a quality level on par with Batman and Robin, the memes only would get more positive attention than this movie is going to get.

Edit: and I'm no MCU fan but whoever is in charge of the casting is doing an infinitely better job of screeing the candidates. The worst the MCU has had to deal with so far, despite featuring way more prominent recurring actors, is (AFAIK) one obnoxious antivax in a relatively secondary role. The tinier DCCU already starred two actors that are or were under criminal investigations, and that's without even looking at Affleck's #metoo issues.

Edited by Bexlerfu on Aug 8th 2022 at 6:09:36 PM

Per info, a reshoot would boil down "Redo the ENTIRE Film" Miller is almost every scene and playing different versions of the Flash. The Kevin Spacey Reshoots cost MILLIONS and he was in the film for what 15 minutes? It would be cheaper (and faster) to just can the whole thing and start from scratch with a new actor for a 2.5 hour film

Or just can it outright. I just read the hypothesis that Batgirl's cancellation served both fiscal reasons and was used to see how people would react to a major movie being canned.

But hey, I think there are way too many superhero movies at the moment, and that it's been a while now since there's been one that was anything beyond mildly entertaining. So if this one signs the DCCU's death warrant and it helps going back to the pace we saw in the early 2000s, then I'm all for it.

Granted, DC is not the main culprit in that but it would still unclog the schedule a little to allow for other types of blockbusters.

If its a flashpoint-type reboot then they could just write it so he gets a new appearance after the big change, so at the very least they have an easy way to recast the role for the future and it would somewhat alleviate the damage of Ezra being the lead here

It may be a bit of an Ass Pull but its one most would understand

Edited by Snoketrope on Aug 8th 2022 at 12:05:16 PM

I think that is already a given. This will be Miller's last appearance in the DCEU if there is a Flash sequel or another film with the Flash it will be a new actor

IK it will be recast, just saying a way they could do it early and give an explanation for it.

Many fans have assumed Flashpoint would be used to reboot the entire clunky mess that is the DCEU, so they might as well.

Dunno if they would recast Momoa and Gadot though.

People like Momoa well enough, but pretty much everyone is calling for a new Mera, really (or maybe a different love interest? Not sure). Dunno where Gadot falls after WW 84, though.

Edited by Blueace on Aug 8th 2022 at 4:43:01 AM

I'd recast Mera, she's too major a character to lose just because of her actress

I’d recast Gadot too but that’s more a matter of taste. >.> I can see Momoa as an evil Aquaman, but Gal seems a bit too squeaky clean to play an evil Diana (if I get the gist of the comics).