Lindsay Ellis

She's probably had multiple people mentioning that to her already, I imagine.

IIRC, her friend Rantasmo has already tweeted about that some time ago, so odds are she already knew about it.
Since Ray Bradbury is mentioned, I feel obligated to post this video (warning: pretty lewd, though nothing explicit)

Edited by HottoKenai on Jul 18th 2018 at 6:10:30 PM

Beat me to it, you beautiful son of a bitch.

Why thank you. Wanna steal some pets later?
Wonder what Lindsay thinks of Crazy Ex-Girlfriend and its feminist messages.

Incidentally, that vid is prolly what Lindsay was implying with 'genuinely cool dude' since it was reported that Bradbury liked it (high praise given how much he invoked New Media Are Evil)

Something interesting I learned from this podcast she guest starred on, Lindsay recently signed on for a paid sponsorship.

I'm unfamiliar with how that stuff works but I hope it works out for her

Why would it be mansplaining anyway? You're just telling her something that popped out recently about an actor.

Because she's probably already by knows now and reminding would be redundant

Yeah, but that's less mansplaining and more of that irritating fan.

Mansplaining would be looking at her body of work and then trying to explain film theory to her.

It is? I've never quite gotten what that term means in the first place.

Basically it just refers to a phenomenon of certain men thinking they understand women's peoblems more than they do, or assuming they know more about some other subject despite that obviously not being the case.

It's a real and common problem though I tend to avoid the term because it usually leads people to gerting into arguments over the teem itself,as opposed to the phenomenon of women being talked over.

It does sound like a convenient way to shut legitimate arguments down. It may describe a real phenomenon, but you should probably avoid using that term in an argument, or it would come off as a discussion killer.

Like I said, I tend to avoid it because it derails things. You can just say "you're talking over someone/being condescending" and still get the point across.

There’s some situations Lindsay encounters where it does apply. For instance, she’s mentioned that she keeps getting comments on her Hobbit videos “correcting” her over and over again on Aragorn’s age, even though she got that part right.

I've seen mansplaining used in two different ways.

1) The male involved talks with a level of authority against a woman about a specific women's issues (i.e. sexism in the workplace) either assuming the woman is uninformed or wrong about something that she's not only aware of but probably very experienced with.

I one time had a (male) friend ask what that was and I was quick to try and answer... only to realize that by explaining, it might be seen as mansplaining to the women in the group who would have a better understanding. My backing off did make for a fun joke though and technically a good explanation.

2) The male involved talks with a level of authority against a woman who knows a lot about a particular topic that she has professional level knowledge of by assuming the woman is uninformed or wrong about something.

To be clear, when I said that, I was also talking from a level of 'I get anxiety about talking to professional people over social media and get those selfconcious whispers that I'm going to look like an ass or an idiot for no reason'. Like, that I'd send a genuine tweet about it, but be the 100th person to do so and feel like an ass.

Edited by InkDagger on Jul 20th 2018 at 8:23:31 AM

I’m not linking because they clearly endorse Mike Cernovich and other unsavory fellows, but it looks like the producers of An Open Secret are attacking Lindsay over her not being fine with James Gunn’s firing.

For those who don’t know, that was the documentary on Hollywood pedophiles released back in 2015. The two producers, Gabe Hoffman and Matthew Valentina’s, run a Twitter account for it in addition to tweeting themselves on pedophile related content 24/7. Notably, Director Amy Berg has had nothing to do with the handling of the documentary or it’s Twitter since it’s release. The original documentary was rather interesting and respectful towards the victims, something that cannot be said about the current climate fostered by the producers. Browsing at their history, they’ve since devolved into an alt-right sympathizing bunch, as they retweet a number of folks like Alex Jones, Mike Cernovich and Milo Yiannopoulos. They also frequently retweet people involved with Pizza Gate theories, so yeah, they haven’t turned out so well. They previously posted an article from Milo’s website claiming Dan Olsen covered up Justin’s crimes and posted his work info so people could get him fired. You can look at their twitter feed to get a sense of this, but do it at your own risk.

I feel bad for Lindsay, as I think she’s going to get a shitstorm of right wing pedo hunters on her back soon.

Edited by CommanderAce on Jul 20th 2018 at 11:42:01 AM

I don't feel that first one counts, though (a male friend asking about a term involving women when women are present). I mean, that would get a little forced if you HAD to ask a woman about such a concept when there is one present.

Its not asking about a term or concept, but talking with authority on a concept AT a woman who has more experience or knowledge about a thing.

Man-splaining can also easily be averted by people simply asking what level of knowledge people have on a topic before attempting to explain something to them. Which is, really, something people should be always doing anyway?

But man-splaining happens when men just assume without a shadow of a doubt that a woman isn't knowledgeable on a topic.

Probably. Some people are just so enthousiastic about the things they know they forget to consider what the other knows, though.

That's usually me. I just get really excited and forget to... not talk in paragraphs. Hence why I get anxiety talking to professional mildly-famous people.

I feel like terms like 'Man-splaining' are jargon that excludes people from the conversation,and that's not fair on people you're discussing it with,it's just easier to say that they're being patronisingly sexist.

I mean, I don’t think it’s so difficult to understand, and I think it’s useful to have terms for recurring situations that come up a lot in feminist discourse. Shorthand can be very helpful.

Edited by KarkatTheDalek on Jul 22nd 2018 at 8:07:03 AM

It can, but it can also be abused to exclude legitimate opinions from the discussion by labeling them as mansplaining. This piece of jargon is rather loaded, and can easily be turned into an ad hominem: your opinion is invalid because you are male.