Fate/Grand Order

I think I'll do the bare minimum to get the walefare servant and maybe the blazes and that's it.

Guess that's what happens when characters are illustrated by people who have no clue about them.

(Current Support Crew for this Event.)

Archer: EMIYA (Lv.70, fully upgraded)

Lancer: Cu Original (Lv.70 Max-Level)

Assassin: MHX (Lv.90 fully upgraded)

Berserker: Nightingale(Lv.10 3th skill + Lv.10 1th skill) or Altalante(for her quick-boost for allies skill) (both Max-leveled)

Saber: Lancelot (right now)

Caster: Waver

Rider: Not determined as of yet (Either Ushiwakamaru Lv.85 and fully upgraded due to the Quick-NP or Chiron Lv.70 for his support boost of all three cards that can be used by allies as well)

I wonder which one would be the best Rider in this Event...

Even so, I'm having a (mostly) Quick-aligned crew this time around...

Let tomorrow arrive!

I'm ready so far! (Until the Okita-Gacha comes around, that is...)

Edited by TitanJump on May 7th 2020 at 6:48:52 PM

Wait, there's a welfare Servant in this?

"Chacha"!

Climbing the point ladders is how you get her NP to Lv.5 and her Ascension materials after all...

Edited by TitanJump on May 7th 2020 at 6:46:33 PM

Ah, I see. Is she good?

She kind of reminds me of Mako in her Goku uniform.

She's a good AOE Berserker for farming, even if her attack stat's a bit gimped by being a welfare.

I saw an interesting theory that's what Seimei used to expose Tamamo.

Camelot update: Merlin called Mordred stupid and I understand Bedivere a bit more now. Mash got an NP upgrade, so maybe I'll use her in the event or something.

I think I understand the Lion King's existence now? They stayed on Earth because Bedivere couldn't yeet Excalibur into the lake, and eventually bonded with the holy lance. Right?

I did like the Living Is More than Surviving-esque speech Mash gave to the Lion King. That was nice.

Edited by Altris on May 7th 2020 at 9:56:19 AM

Yes. For reasons, Rhon has the ability to slowly turn its wielder into a Divine Spirit. Lion King is the ultimate result of the transformation.

This does bring up one thing that has been bugging about Tamamo's backstory: Did she just suddenly decided that she didn't want to be evil become becoming Tamamo?

The Lion King is less Artoria and more the will of Rhongomyniad made manifest. She's had it for so long its effectively given her a Loss of Identity, to the point you can't even call her Artoria. There's a reason why normal Artoria stopped using the spear, and why Gray doesn't use Add in that form too often. In a way, that spear is more a curse than a blessing. The only reason Lartoria and Lalter can use it is thanks to their circumstances.

• Lartoria still lived a mortal life despite becoming a partial Divine Spirit and died before it could control her, and while she fears she lost it she still managed to retain her humanity.
• Lalter meanwhile was technically corrupted by "All the World's Evils", simultaneously controlling the divinity of the spear as well as keeping her Lawful Good rather than Lawful Evil.

Edited by RebelFalcon on May 7th 2020 at 1:30:05 PM

So Lalter has Angra Manyu to thank for keeping her sanity and humanity as a servant?

(Makes me wish there were a line between these two in the "my room" conversations...)

Edited by TitanJump on May 7th 2020 at 7:32:01 PM

Merlin, probably: Feature, not a bug!

Artoria really should've made him read out the fine print on anything he helped her get.

Like any of us can judge, terms of use can have a "the provider has exclusive rights to the user's blood" and we wouldn't know.

I looked up Lancer Alter's profile in NA, and it reads:

… So dies it mean she turned herself into this or if the Grail summoned her like this? If the former, how. Are we talking about the actual Holy Grail, or the HGW Grail? Because reminder that the Grail is not evil on its own, it itself hot corrupted. So how did she end up corrupting herself? There's also the whole King of the Storm thing.

Lancer Alter is a hot mess that should get a rewrite.

I can see it this way:

1. Gets summoned in the fifth war as a lancer.

2. Goes the "Heaven's Feel" route.

3. Endures the route to the end and dies.

4. The corrupted record is now permanently part of the Throne.

5. Re-summon as many times as masters would like.

or

1. Gets summoned in the fourth war (Fate/Zero) as a Lancer and Diarmund as the "Saber"

2. Endures the war.

3. Gets summoned again in the Fifth War (With Cu summoned as something else)

4. Goes the "Heaven's feel" route

5. Turns into Lalter

6. Rinse and repeat the summoning.

Consider the term "All roads are cannon" in the Nasu-verse, then either of these two could be the case...

Edited by TitanJump on May 7th 2020 at 7:54:49 PM

I looked at her mats and there's this

Since the Throne is now a physical location, she clearly found Angra and was like "yo gimme some of that grail mud I NEED TO MAKE MYSELF AS DIFFERENT AS POSSIBLE"

Sita.

She was with us just a short moment but I'll never forget her. Best wife.

I already have Rama, so no I must summon Sita. It's only right.

Wait, the Throne is like a place? I always imagined it more akin to a database than a physical space.

Edited by Shlugo_the_great on May 7th 2020 at 8:02:34 PM

But Angra only got his "All the World's Evil" (grail mud) ability due to being stuck in a grail, didn't he?

I mean, he doesn't have it when properly summoned as a servant now, right?

(Unless there's an "Angra Alter" in the Throne that it uses whenever a wish for an Alter -Servant is made through a grail...)

Edited by TitanJump on May 7th 2020 at 8:09:36 PM

Beni-enma's introduction establishes that a lot of her cooking lessons take place in the Throne, which implies some degree of physicality for the HS now.

eh I was being facetious with that last bit

Edited by Nouct on May 7th 2020 at 11:06:22 AM

How else can Gil go through record in the throne, look at memories of Shirou beating him, and call it fale news as he ignores them?

There's been some jokes with the Japanese Servants (you know, the ones that keep breaking the fourth wall, like Casko and Osakabehime) along the lines of that, which I'm pretty sure it's just Rule of Funny as they never get brought up anywhere else.

Edited by HailMuffins on May 7th 2020 at 3:07:57 PM

Again, what does it mean by "Holy Grail's curse"? The Fuyuki Holy Grail was created way past her time, so did something happen to retroactively change her? If we're talking about the real Holy Grail (which as a reminder, went "BEGONE FILTH" at Lancelot and shot a fireball at him), then I think that should be elaborated more.

Again, this backstory for her doesn't make sense. If she was just "Artoria who became one of the leaders of Wild Hunt" and left it at that while explaining about Rhon, then that is all what would have been needed.

Gil has super clairvoyance that can see into alternate timelines

According to Tamamo herself, she was never the beast Daji that killed a ton of people in China (she was outright insulted when Li Shuwen called her that). What happened was, as a bunrei of amaterasu she became interested in humans and wanted to live among them.

In Extra she reveals that:

she was born as a human as Mizukume, worked for Emperor Toba, and became his most favored lady for her intelligence and beauty, and was renamed Tamamo-no-Mae. one day fox ears and a tail sprouted out of her head, which freaked her out and she hid them.

eventually emperor toba became really really sick, and no one could figure out why until an Onmyouji (which was Abe no Seimei) was called to reveal any dark spirits that may be haunting him.

in doing so, this revealed that Tamamo had a pair of fox ears and tail and was a divine spirit. everyone that she knew and loved chased her out and she was hunted down, blamed as the same Beast that ruined China.

eventually she ended up in the fields of Nasu, where an 80,000 man army tried to kill her. she killed everyone there. when the second wave of the army came she tried to reason with them, but no one would listen.

eventually she gave up and let herself be killed after realizing that human lives are fragile and the horror she committed when killing the armor. her final ascension art is from when she was killed in the fields of nasu, crying over the regrets of being killed by the people she so loved.

of course, later on after Extra's release there would be mats and dialogue in FGO that would imply that she was Daji, closer to her original legend. How this fits into lore is a mystery, since Tamamo wouldn't have had any reason to lie to Hakuno by that point. Most people are theorizing that Daji was simply another bunrei of amaterasu, thereby permanently linking them and their fates together.

so really she didnt really "stop" being evil, per say, because she wasnt evil in her intentions to begin with... probably. at any rate, the tamamo we i know and love only really cares about living a life with her husband (even if her husband is a woman), and would rather not see the destruction of whatever world she lives in.

Edited by EpicBleye on May 7th 2020 at 2:35:43 PM

For Guda Guda 2, just remember to do some quests on both ladders during each stage so you can get the stage prizes no matter which side wins that stage.

Don't believe the Monsterfox Lies.