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This week, producer Ross Putnam started a Twitter account called "femscriptintros
", where he puts up examples of how women are introduced in the screenplays he's read. And nearly all of sound like terrible porn or are too concerned with emphasizing said lady is beautiful despite whatever traits she may have. Here's a Take Two podcast made today where he talks about it.
(Edited April 19 2024 to add mod pinned post)
Edited by Mrph1 on Apr 19th 2024 at 11:45:51 AM
The Dragon of the Eastern Sea
Oh my god that's precious and I love them
Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you
Shin Megami Tensei IV
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Oh, that's cute.
Incidentally, my local paper's review of A Simple Favor was less a review of the film and more of a plea to hire Henry Golding as the next James Bond.
Here's the review if you like: https://www.washingtonpost.com/express/2018/09/14/simple-favor-solves-one-mystery-who-should-be-next-james-bond/?utm_term=.4b229d4b8866
Edited by Larkmarn on Sep 20th 2018 at 10:42:13 AM
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After conversations with Color of Change and criticism from the Internet, Disney has amended Princess Tiana’s Wreck-It Ralph 2 design to be more faithful to her original appearance in her own film.
Edited by Tuckerscreator on Sep 20th 2018 at 4:14:36 AM
The Unknown Unknown
First time I heard about the Tiana thing, but I'm glad it happened. Gotta give young black girls a role model (they need more but take what you can get in the meantime).
A cruel, sick joke is still a joke, and sometimes all you can do is laugh.
Jaded Techie Fox
Oh dang, that's fantastic! I wasn't expecting them to change anything so that's cool that that ended up happening. And Tiana looks so much better now, honestly.
Trust you? The only person I can trust is myself.
Shin Megami Tensei IV
Pocahontas is even more whitewashed. Like, I still recognize African features in Tiana but Pocahontas is just a tanned white woman.
Watch me destroying my country
Frankly, I didn't even notice, but then, I wasn't really paying attention to those two and frankly, I am kind of used to them looking not really like the movies from the line-up. Marketing Princesses are very different from the actual Princesses (not that I am not happy if Disney for ONCE listened to complains).
Disasturbator
> First time I heard about the Tiana thing, but I'm glad it happened. Gotta give young black girls a role model (they need more but take what you can get in the meantime).
Before they altered her appearance she was a role model,I..I feel like the complaint over her appearance was hugely blown over
New theme music also a box
So, um, there are "sexy" Handmaid's Tale Halloween costumes now.
Whoever keeps churning out these ideas really needs to be given a "You Could Not Miss The Point Any Harder If You Tried" Award.
Edited by windleopard on Sep 21st 2018 at 7:19:53 AM
Not going to lie, unlike the wine, for me that Crosses the Line Twice and actually kinda circles around to awesome.
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Oh, bother.
I wish I could I say I was surprised by this. I really do.
But I'm not.
Disgusted, but not surprised
Oh, bother.
And of course they gave a bullshit non-apology that faulted people for "misunderstanding" them and saying "Look at how magnanimous we are for listening to you!"
Over the last few hours, it has become obvious that our “Yandy Brave Red Maiden Costume” is being seen as a symbol of women’s oppression, rather than an expression of women’s empowerment. This is unfortunate, as it was not our intention on any level. Our initial inspiration to create the piece was through witnessing its use in recent months as a powerful protest image.
Given the sincere, heartfelt response, supported by numerous personal stories we’ve received, we are removing the costume from our site.
Just once...just once I'd like a company to offer a short and sincere apology like "We made a mistake. What we did was wrong. We're sorry."
Edited by M84 on Sep 21st 2018 at 11:07:06 PM
Disgusted, but not surprised
The Unknown Unknown
Is accountability really that hard?
A cruel, sick joke is still a joke, and sometimes all you can do is laugh.
It's a bird.
I know some women who would heavily dispute that. Still, I agree that wearing those outfits in public would be pretty damn distasteful given what the show is about.
Still a great "screw depression" song even after seven years.
Disasturbator
> Is accountability really that hard?
It's bad for business,they can't admit wrong doing as that would mean they're at fault,and if they're at fault that means someone could sue them for damages (worst case scenario) which would mean losing money
So they avoid all that not admitting they screwed up
New theme music also a box
Eh, it’s clearly satirical. This is nowhere near as tone deaf as the wine or branded lingerie (seriously, what the hell?!). Those were played without a hint of irony.
Disasturbator
There is now going to be demand for 'sexy' handmaiden outfits solely because of controversy,which may have been intentional..you never know
New theme music also a box
How is this satirical when those weren't?
The same company also makes gross “Indian” costumes, so I doubt their aptitude at satire.
The ban on Rafiki, a Kenyan film about lesbians, has been lifted so the film can qualify for the Academy Awards.
Oh, bother.
It's uncanny how often more context makes these situations even more incriminating. Honestly, this company lost the benefit of the doubt a long time ago.
x3 - Because the former were officially licensed products, meaning that the rights holders signed off on it. They thought it made a great active representation of their brand which leads me to believe they never saw the show.
This is just (presumably, if I’m wrong I’ll be shocked but I’ll do a complete 180) some unofficial costume made by a company, same as a sexy cop or a naughty nun, which is satirical in nature.
Sesame Street writer, Mark Saltzman, reveals that Bert and Ernie, are based on his relationship with his life partner, film editor Arnold Glassman.