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Deadlock Clock: Nov 29th 2014 at 11:59:00 PM
katethegr8 from Eastern USA Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#1: Oct 8th 2014 at 7:11:56 AM

Narm is supposed to refer to serious things that come across as unintentionally funny due to bad writing/acting, melodrama, or otherwise. But a lot of tropers have been using it to mean "scene that made me groan," or worse, as a synonym for Dethroning Moment Of Suck or Wall Banger (these are Flame Bait, so its understandable, but still). I had to delete a huge chunk of examples from Fairy Tail because they were all just tropers complaining about moments they didn't like or find particularly effective. I've seen the problem pop up elsewhere occasionally, like Star Trek Into Darkness.

While the misuse isn't as bad as that for tropes like Berserk Button, it's still worth mentioning.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#2: Oct 9th 2014 at 2:04:25 AM

That's an ongoing kind of misuse. I doubt that there are more effective remedies than to remove entries that don't explain how the moment is unintentionally funny, though - and reporting repeat offenders on Ask The Tropers.

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ReikoKazama Outspoken Cleric from Tasmania, Australia Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Married to the music
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#3: Oct 9th 2014 at 2:13:01 AM

Agreeing with Septimus Heap on this one. That's all I'm saying.

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katethegr8 from Eastern USA Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#4: Oct 9th 2014 at 6:40:01 AM

OK, that makes sense.grin

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AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
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#5: Oct 9th 2014 at 7:26:06 AM

I think the description is a bit jumpy. Origin and relations to other tropes should be farther down than the actual explanation for the trope. Explain the trope first, then mention other details, if at all necessary.

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ReikoKazama Outspoken Cleric from Tasmania, Australia Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Married to the music
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#6: Oct 23rd 2014 at 10:10:48 PM

Can we, like, put a crowner on this or something? Or just... close the discussion since it's been, like, forever and no-one else has added anything?

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#7: Oct 24th 2014 at 1:29:40 AM

Not sure what a crowner could help. I am willing to close this, unless someone can offer a description rewrite.

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Leaper Since: May, 2009
#8: Oct 24th 2014 at 1:42:08 AM

I think at least a reorganization would be worthwhile.

PacificGreen Since: Sep, 2014
#9: Oct 25th 2014 at 5:57:39 PM

This might be a lot of work, but here's an idea: you can lock pages that are constantly suffering from misuse, and put a big note at the top explaining what Narm actually is and asking what to consider when adding examples. Like in this page.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#10: Nov 26th 2014 at 12:19:45 AM

Clock is set.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#11: Nov 30th 2014 at 2:17:54 AM

Clock is up with no progress; closing.

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