The next Atrocity will be "Fame and Misfortune" from MLP: FiM.
An open mind and compassionate heart are among the most important qualities we can have.So, as a non-brony, how is this episode in terms of popularity?
It's been 3000 years…Basically it's a meta commentary on the brony fandom, and thus is bound to irritate some fans. There's also the fact that the episode doesn't have much of a resolution and the whole thing feels a bit off considering the setting of Ponyville.
The Crystal Caverns A bird's gotta sing.What exactly does it say about the fandom?
I used to love the show, but I stopped watching after Season 4.
You know, I have to wonder why Pit is obsessed with this site. It’s gonna ruin his life!Basically demonizing certain characters (ironically Rarity), adoring other characters(ironically Applejack, but Rainbow made sense for that), flanderizing characters to their most basic traits (Pinkie)complaining about some characters (Fluttershy) learning the same lessons over and over. The big issue is that none of the fans learned anything, which is really odd for an Fi M episode and makes it far more mean spirited than it needed to be.
The Crystal Caverns A bird's gotta sing.
Sometimes a little tough love is necessary if they're ever gonna learn.
But in all seriousness, fandoms as a whole (even the nicer ones) all have problems, and shouldn't get so up in arms when a show acknowledges those shortcomings. And as far as "fandom takedown" episodes are concerned, MLP:FIM has nothing on The Simpsons or Animaniacs (or a lot of 90's cartoons for that matter).
I'd also argue that the episode is only a "fandom takedown" if you are aware of the MLP fandom at large (and I mean really in on it); "in on the joke" as it were. If not (like a lot of little kids watching the show (ergo: the two little kids at the end of the episode (ergo: the show's main audience))), the episode will probably just come off as about how people fight over the specifics of a thing to the point that they miss the big picture, and lose what made the thing special in the first place. Or that it's just about "fandom" in general, and how fighting over inconsequential things (like head-canons or Die for Our Ship) can ruin what made something enjoyable in the first place.
Which is a pretty good lesson, when you get down to it, and one that more people should learn. The fact the so-called "fans" aren't forgiven in the end may be harsh, but they aren't punished either, despite acting like complete jackasses to the Mane 6, so i'd hesitate to call it "mean spirited" that the episode ends with the girls deciding to not interact with them anymore, and instead spend time with the kids who actually took their message of "make friends and get along" to heart.
"Atrocity".
... methinks somebody didn't take kindly to the point.
The point of the episode isn't only to shed a mirror onto the bad side of fans, but also that fans can't simply expect characters to become pure simply because they went through seasons of learning the same lesson over and over. Characters are flawed and will CONTINUE to have different flaws despite all that, since that's what makes them complex. If it weren't for the flaws, would they even be interesting to watch? The show is aimed at kids. And if they make something that kids enjoy and maybe one day cite as an inspiration to how they grow up later in lfie, that should be great.
And yeah, at the end of the ep, NONE of the Ponyville fans learn anything. Because that's also a lot more realistic. The Mane 6 basically just consider them a lost cause and give up dealing. This was in fact the last episode written by Larson before he left the show, and you can definitely tell he put a lot of his experiences from con-goers into it! I really liked all the specific things fans give em shit for, like "are Applejack and Pinkie Pie related or what"!?!?
My annoyance lies with how this will inevitably be a hate video from an ex-brony that for SOME REASON decided to return to watch an episode out of the blue! What was he expecting to get??
edited 24th Jan '18 7:56:07 PM by kyun
Enter isn't even that hardcore an MLP fan anymore. I'm betting his angle will be 1) it being a meanspirited episode (incidentally this is why the writer of the episode himself hates the episode) and 2) not having a proper conclusion.
The Crystal Caverns A bird's gotta sing....except it does have a proper conclusion.
The episode opens with Twilight teaching a pair of kids an important lesson about friendship, but they don't seem to really take to it, and she is concerned. She then tries to teach those lessons to a bunch of other people in book form, who take to the book instantly, but then start fighting amongst each other about its perceived nuances, harassing the Mane 6, etc. etc., until Twilight just gives up dejected after failing to reason with them multiple times. The episode then ends with the two kids returning, revealing that they did listen to her earlier and learned to be friends, it just took a while to sink in, and Twilight is encouraged to keep pressing on.
That's the bare-bones version of the plot, and it has a beginning, middle, and ending, with a conclusion built out of events established at the beginning of the episode.
Haven't watched the series since the CMC finally got their marks. Maybe I should catch up before the review. Luckily I have a good memory.
edited 26th Jan '18 11:22:56 AM by Smasher
Frankly I loved the episode. Was pretty damn funny.
Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?The review for Fame and Misfortune is now out.
It's been 3000 years…I didn't think anyone could miss the point of "Try Everything" so badly.
..... he talks about Zootopia too doesn't he?
... No I didn't watch the video. I never will.
edited 29th Jan '18 7:52:40 AM by kyun
It's only in context of the song. He says nothing about the rest of the movie.
The Crystal Caverns A bird's gotta sing.No, just the song. Ironically, one of his personal flaws, not acting for fear of failure, is exactly what Try Everything is addressing.
Hold on, lemme get that embed for you~
If you're curious why he's reviewing a grossout show when he said he'd be done with them, the distinctions here are
- The show came out a full decade after the grossout show trope died, and
- More importantly, the show's in 3D so Enter gets to talk about why a full-CGI cartoon is going to have a difficult time actually being gross, if that's what it wants to go for.
So there's more (lack of) merit here than just being a grossout cartoon since it fails spectacularly at that every step of the way. Though... at least it's trying to put some effort in, unlike Shnookums & Meat.
edited 15th Feb '18 11:10:29 AM by NesClassic
🏳️⚧️she/her | Vio Rhyse AlberiaShittily animated cartoons are my favorite Mr. Enter videos.
It's been 3000 years…Considering what he feels about Adult Animation in the West, I wonder how he feels about stuff like DEVILMAN crybaby
Watch SymphogearEnter is having some MAJOR issues with insomnia at the moment and is taking a few days off.
"We're all paper, we're all scissors, we're all fightin' with our mirrors, scared we'll never find somebody to love."Episode 150 of Atrocities is here. It's Re-Animated, also known as Out of Jimmy's Head.
It's been 3000 years…
I remember that and it was horrible.
So I wonder what the surprise hour-long video is about.
It's been 3000 years…