Disney's Star vs. the Forces of Evil

Am I the only one who misses Star's characterization from the first two seasons or so? I think she's still as good a character as ever, but I found her more charming and entertaining to watch when she was more of a Manic Pixie Dream Girl.

For some reason I always feel a little sad when I see others refer to her change as her "maturing". I thought season 1 Star was adorable! I'm glad we still occasionally get to see that Star like when she was excited to buy that silly palm tree costume in "Trial By Squire" or when she first found the photo booth in "Booth Buddies".

Really, I always thought that big strength of this show was that no matter how serious situation, characters - especially Star - remained the same quirky goofs they are in comedy episodes.

I actually like the development she has over the seasons. It's a big contrast to how in the first season it seems like it's a battle against stereotypical monsters, until she realizes that maybe her people aren't as noble as they are presented in this situation.

I know people say Mewberty is the point where the show grew the beard. But I think it was Mewpendence Day that really set what the future tone of the series was going to be like.

I've just ordered my copy of The Magic Book of Spells. Excited for it to arrive

@Firewriter: I'm not criticizing the fact that she learned monsters aren't all bad and the mewmans did bad things. It just seems like she doesn't get as excited and cheerful as often in the third season, which I think is a shame. I personally would have left that aspect of her the same while still including the other changes (learning the truth about her people and monsters, learning to think ahead instead of rushing into situations like a bogbeast, stepping into her role as princess more, etc.)

Can't do it...

Can't do what?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncaRfCeqk6k - Butterfly Follies (NYCC SNEAK PEEK)

I got it.

Yeah, Star's decision to give up the wand and throne really has made her a pariah.

Oh, this premise is just begging for a genuinely bad monster to pop up, wreak havoc, and force the villagers to beg for Star to save them...

Anyone want to bet that happens and someone will give those villager gits a lecture on why they're the real monsters for not backing Star when she did a truthful, honest thing when everyone before her has gone the dishonest route?

Depending on the circumstances, I can see them blaming her for it. Star being honest hasn't always turned out well.

So what would be the mewmans' opinions of Marco given from the preview there wasn't an actor mocking him?

Other than his association with the Butterflies, he did try to do something about Meteora during her rampage.

My guess:

• He's exempt from their Fantastic Racism due to both a relative lack of visibility (Marco not being from Mewni would not be in its public consciousness as much as the Butterflies) and looking more like them than he does the monsters.
• To elaborate, Marco is a native of Earth, and has only been on Mewni for a relativity short time. Since Star was the princess, the population would had been familiar of her for as long as she lived. Same applies to River and Moon.
• Another angle would depend on the extent of the Mewmans' xenophobia. As it is well known that even before Star decided to be an activist for the Monsters, that she had a friendship with Pony Head and dated Tom. While the royals are friendly to them because they're of similar status, the lower classes are unlikely to see this distinction (Which IIRC, was showcased When Tom and Star went to the marketplace).

TL:DR Marco might get a pass be cause he passes for Mewman, and likely because no one outside the Royals and the maybe the artist troupe knows he's from Earth.

Edited by MorningStar1337 on Oct 10th 2018 at 5:41:11 AM

Huh, from what you said about xenophobia, I'm curious to know how the relations with other kingdoms will end up. We did see something with the before-mentioned Tom in the marketplace, so it seems likely things may get worse.

Edited by KZN02 on Oct 10th 2018 at 10:25:45 AM

Call me crude, but I always find cartoon girls farting funny.

I've got a question about the episode "Game of Flags"? Does Star almost frying one of the nobleman in the lava portion count as a moral event horizon for her?

No.

Taking even the shortest peek at trope's description will tell you that it means "character does something so evil, that now they will be evil forever because there is no way they can be redeemed after that." Of course I've seen plenty people overuse it as more of Never Live It Down moment or Abandon Shipping kind of trope (except instead of shipping you stop hoping for the villain or start hating him instead of thinking that Evil Is Cool) but it's definitely doesn't mean "character becomes a jerk for a episode and this is the moment where character, their friends and/or audience notice that this is going too far". I mean, I even forgot that this happened.

It's kind of scary her family apparently does that to each other every year, though.

Not really.

OK because it seems to be definitely cruel that she almost fried someone just to win a flag game

next you'll be claiming she's a complete monster I mean Moral event horizon leads to that naturally

"Definitely cruel" is not sufficient qualification for "moral event horizon". If I recall, this was Played for Laughs? If the writers are making it a punchline, a character can do anything and not cross that line. (You might not find it funny yourself, but you'd be casting judgment on the writers, not the character.)

Word of advice on Birdy, they are always looking to pin characters with either Complete Monster or Moral Event Horizon. Has happened countless time in the My Little Pony thread.