Ugggghhhh…
George Perez just died. He was one of my absolute favorite artists.
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RIP, he was a legend.
Also some leaks over the maybe roster of the new League.
Jon Kent/Superman, Damian Wayne/Robin, Harley Quinn, Mary Marvel, Kimiyo Hoshi/Doctor Light, Caitlin Snow/Killer Frost, Ted Kord/Blue Beetle, Jamie Reyes/Blue Beetle, Booster Gold, Jackson Hyde/Aquaman, & Frankenstein
Could be temporary or a one-off but this is a pretty decent roster, about the only bad pick is Harley.
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Frankenstein, hell yeah. I don't understand Harley's popularity. I agree that that's a weird pick.
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Why is she not in Jail?! If she wants to be away from the Joker, that's fine. If she's trying to be better, that's cool, but Harley has plenty of blood on her hands, and should not be part of the Justice League. Let her redeem herself in Prison!
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because she's popular
also because as she was originally Joker's henchwoman, she gets to benefit from Joker Immunity and Cardboard Prison
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Its very much popularity power yeah, plenty of characters more deserving or fitting to be on the League, and yet Harley gets in purely because of the mass amounts of favoritism she gets. Its especially notable she since she pretty much provides nothing of note to the team aside from being somewhat loopy. Sure Plastic Man is a crazy motherfucker but at least he brings along his incredible power with boundless ingenuity.
Meanwhile Harley can't do anything that Robin or Ted Kord can't already do.
Edited by slimcoder on May 8th 2022 at 2:37:43 AM
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Like reflections in the glass!
I wouldn't quite go that far TBH. As an ex-con, she likely has several underworld connections that could be exploited for the League's benefit. Something that can't be said for Kord. (Damian is a different matter, but I'd imagine his is limited to the Leauge of Assassins)
Still a poor choice though
Edited by MorningStar1337 on May 8th 2022 at 2:45:48 AM
Maybe it's a PR move. Ideally, you want the villains' henchpeople to turn against them and start helping the side of good. So you make a big public spectacle of Harley turning against Joker and being welcomed by the heroes, hoping it will encourage others to do the same ... even if, privately, none of them want to be around her.
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Shit. That's not a poor idea.
And like, I've made it clear I don't think Harley should be treated as a hero, but also that it's a good thing that she's turning away from the Joker and trying to be better. So making it a PR thing and potentially showing other former villains that they can turn away from that life and possibly become a hero using her isn't a bad idea. Like, what better way to show that anyone can be rehabilitated than by having the former bench girl of the god damn Batman JOKER join the Justice League?
I still hate it, but I can kinda deal with it now.
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I'd say having the actual bench girl of the actual Goddamn Batman Joker, but the problem is He Who Overstayed His Welcome didn't have a Harley analogue
harley isnt in jail because her record was cleared via squad work
So I just remembered a single issue of a DC comic that I was really uncomfortable with, and it's a pretty obscure one too. It's an issue of Jamie Delano's run on Animal Man dealing with Ellen leaving Buddy after becoming fed up with how inhuman he's become (a massively overused plot thread by many writers) and staying with a friend in New York. She quickly realizes that her friend's boyfriend is abusive, and when she asks why she doesn't report or simply leave him, the friend reveals that the guy is related to a big Mafia family who have all the cops in the area on the take and who have told her they'll have her killed unless she stays with him. Ellen's big solution turns out to be...
...teaming up with a group of "man-eating lesbian" types who have the boyfriend drugged and raped by a transgender prostitute and film it, saying that if he doesn't end the relationship they'll show the tapes to all his big gangster uncles who will then assuredly have him killed for being gay.
...I mean, I know the guy was AWFUL, but is it odd that I was really creeped out by the portrayal of doing something like this as a #girlboss moment?
Edited by HamburgerTime on May 8th 2022 at 9:45:10 AM
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That is uh....... wow. :/
When was that printed?
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Mid '90s, I think? After the Vertigo switch.
It's not odd that you were creeped out. That plays to way too many stereotypes under the auspices of being...I dunno, some kind of empowerment? All you're left with is the knowledge that Ellen, apparently, is capable, under the right circumstances, in arranging to have someone raped.
Yeah, it was definitely played as empowerment, especially since Ellen actually starts dating one of the women who arranged the rape during her and Buddy's separation.
The run's ending was also bizarre - Buddy becomes the leader of a hippie commune-type movement that makes a pilgrimage to the Montana wilderness, and once they get there Buddy commit suicide (he gets better, naturally) and everyone else decides to just screw and do drugs until the cows come home.
An author's note at the end states that yes, the intended message of the run is that trying to make the world a better place is a fool's errand because the system's rigged against you, and it's therefore completely okay to give into either suicidal despair or mindless hedonism.
...alrighty then. Wow, much '90s edge.
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You can feel the edge.
What a jackass.
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
And keep in mind, I actually LIKED the concept of "eccentric activist movement springs up around a superhero," so the bait and switch to the ultimate payoff of "self-destructive nihilistic excess FTW!" was doubly disappointing to me.
Jurassic league is amazing. batrex suplexed ptadactyl joker
Who would you say has had the weirdest comic book escapades, Batman or Superman?
Akira Toriyama (April 5 1955 - March 1, 2024).
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Silver Age Supes got up to some shenanigans. Not that Bats didn't, but Supes tended to roam around more.
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The Superdickery covers are straight mind bending
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From an objective level, Superman. However I think relative to their standing in the 'verse, Batman. Superman dealing with insane, mind-bending stuff isn't surprising because he's a Flying Brick alien Moses...kind of comes with the territory. Batman meanwhile is a Badass Normal detective/Zorro expy who usually has to deal with flamboyantly evil criminals so the really weird stuff is more apparent.
yeah I was gonna say the exact same thing. superman has dealt with weirder stuff but the weird stuff in comparison to their normal level is way higher for batman. like batman's weird stuff is usually like a 2/3 and maxes out at an 8, but superman's is like a 4 and maxes out at 9
Huh turns out Grant Morrison planned on making Hal Jordan pansexual during their Green Lantern run
Continuing that thought, Morrison added that this would have been explored in the series had the poor sales and planned 5G event (itself cancelled later by DC) didn't force the series into a shorter run. They added: "This was one of a few stories I had planned from the outset for a potential Season 2 and as the title suggests it started as a vague Assault on Precinct 13 riff. Arriving here felt like a major milestone on the way to getting through what now felt more like a war of attrition, what with disappointing sales and a shocking lack of serious engagement from the general comics readership."
Morrison went into detail in their newsletter about how plans for The Green Lantern were truncated due to events beyond their control, but also revealed that this ended up feeling like "a demoralising vote of no confidence for the work" that he and artist collaborator Liam Sharp were working on. They wrote: "5G suffered a terminal setback when DC publisher Dan Di Dio left the company in 2020 but plans were very much in place to retire Hal Jordan in favour of a more diverse human member of the Green Lantern Corps. I was all in favour of the update – but wished it could have waited until we were done.....We'd done our best to give the character some dignity and authority. Now it appeared we might be writing his swan song."